ctid Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 "Scott Laughton has bulked up from 180 to 194 poundsRead more at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20130709_Defenseman_Bourdon_seeks_a_spot_with_the_Flyers.html#zxmBmOmbxLKcq4lz.99"He is ready for the NHL. I really hope he earns a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) ... Edited July 9, 2013 by Bertmega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) @ctidI like Ghost's attitude. a lot.He's got confidence, I hope his frame can support some more size so he has the opportunity to be a durable NHL player. He was very good for the US at the world juniors, did not look like he was out of place or being carried by superstar teammates, he looked to be among peers. I think that bodes well for him and the Flyers Edited July 9, 2013 by mojo1917 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 @mojo1917 I worry about his size too. It's fine against juniors. But his weight is detrimental playing D against NHLers. Right now I just see him as a pp type specialist and that worries me. But drafting Morin and Hagg gives me optimism at that position, and maybe there's room for that type of "luxury" down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 ...yeah i know...realized how pointless this thread actually was as soon as I posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 @ctidSorry ctid. I actully responded with a picture of steroids, but then realized that posting illegal drugs may be not so kosher with the mods so I deleted it. The only problem when you delete a picture, you cannot delete the post. Sorry for the confusion. It is very good that one of the Flyers top prospects is getting size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 @Bertmegait was just a random thought that popped into my mind while I was reading the article. I knew one of the issues and concerns we had with Laughton reaching his potential would be his muscle/weight gain, considering he is primarily a two way/defensive forward.Anyways, I guess I'm still used to thee old philly.com forum setup where ALL random thoughts are posted in its own separate thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I worry about his size too.I wouldn't he's got two more years of college and then may be one in the A. He'll put on some weight by then...he must not be drinking any beer...that will bulk him up quickly...Richard Simmons might not approve but it will put some weight on them bones!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Monet Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 @flyercanuckhopefully ghost can be the next rafalski (sp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I love how getting crushed by Grossmann was his motivation. Never again, or so Laughton thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMOnation Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 yeah i know...realized how pointless this thread actually was as soon as I posted it.Pointless?2008-2009 season Bill Clement raved in August how much muscle Jeff Carter had put on, I believe he said "He will have a Vinny Lecavalier type season". Carter put up 84 points.2007-2008 Richards bulked up and because a 1st line center and threw some viscous hits. He scored 75 points that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 @AMMOnation Mike York - Peppermint Fatty liked Nachos so much he ate his way to the AHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMOnation Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 @AMMOnationMike York - Peppermint Fatty liked Nachos so much he ate his way to the AHLyour aware muscle weighs more than fat no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I'm up to 220 can I play too? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20130710_Laughton_hoping_for_a_longer_look_from_Flyers.htmlThis article mentions Laughton's weight gain, and that he hopes to stick around in the NHL. He feels like he's ready to roll... Signing Vinny may or may not complicate things. WIthout Vinny, Schenn would have been 2nd line center, so it may very well be that he's just blocked no matter what.So, if he impresses again at camp, do you keep him as 4th line center? If so, what do you do with Hall who was signed for that very reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I would keep laughton in the ahl for one more year. Eventhough he might be ready there is no space for him other than 4th line minutes. Let him develop in the A for a full year playing top minutes in all situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Jammer said Laughton is too young for the AHL, so he would have to return to juniors for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Here's the rub: unless Couturier is moved or bombs at his role, Laughton will never be higher than 4th center on this team with 18, 40, 28 ahead of him for the forseeable future.What to do, what to do?A lot can change in 1, 2, 3, 5 years. When Vinny is done, Laughton will be 24 and still very young, though one would hope he's already had 2-3 years of NHL experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Jammer said Laughton is too young for the AHL, so he would have to return to juniors for the season.Was Laughton 17 when he was drafted ? younger ?I thought you could play in the A at 19... i do know there is an age limit to protect the major junior teams but apparently the limit is for a higher age than i thought. Edited July 10, 2013 by mojo1917 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 @mojo1917You have to be 20 if you play in the CHL to play in the A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 @flyercanuck thanks, that makes sense since those teams/leagues are for profit endeavors, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Was Laughton 17 when he was drafted ? younger ?I thought you could play in the A at 19... i do know there is an age limit to protect the major junior teams but apparently the limit is for a higher age than i thought.I was under the impression it was 20 years old. Per the official AHL page:What is the minimum age for an AHL player?Per AHL By-Laws, the age limit for eligibility to compete in the American Hockey League is 18 years or over, on or before September 15 of each season of competition.But found this further qualification as it relates to the CHL (http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2010/04/21/from-the-inbox/) :Question:“Hey GB, I saw that HF noted Paradis can’t play in the AHL next year, but he was able to join them at the end of this season. How does that work? Is it age-related? Â Thanks, Gerard.”Answer:The CHL (comprised of the WHL, OHL, and QMJHL) has to ensure the success of its own leagues, and as such has a legitimate concern about losing its marquee players on a too-frequent basis. Â Similarly, CHL teams are in the business of winning to keep their franchises afloat, and can ill-afford to lose their best players after only a couple of seasons. Â To resolve this dilemma, the NHL and CHL have an agreement in place which ensures CHL franchises (and fanbases) are able to retain most of their talent for three to four years.The way it works is rather simple. Â A CHL player whose rights are held by an NHL team is only eligible to play a full season in the AHL if:(a) the player will turn 20 years of age by December 31st of the season in question;OR(b) the player has already completed four seasons of Junior eligibility.Note that there are some caveats to this agreement:(i) the agreement applies only to players drafted out of the CHL;(ii) once a team’s CHL season and/or playoffs has concluded, their players are no longer subject to the agreement (hence the late-season ‘callups’ to the AHL);(iii) the agreement will re-apply to each player subject to item (i) above at the start of the next season until the player meets the criteria listed in points (a) and (b) above.This agreement is the primary reason you see young prospects sent back to Junior instead of the AHL. For example, Nazem Kadri was not eligible to play in the AHL this past season. Similarly, Luke Schenn could not have played in the AHL during his rookie season, but would have been eligible this season had the team so desired.In the case of Philippe Paradis, he was born January 2nd 1991 and will therefore miss out on AHL eligibility by two days (he doesn’t turn 20 until Jan 2 of 2011). And because he has one year of Junior eligibility remaining, he is unable to override the age criteria. Â Therefore he is expected to return to the QMJHL for one more season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekkes85 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Any North American has to be at least 20 to play in the AHL, I believe (although not 100%) that Euro players can play at a younger age. I think it has to do with an NHL agreement not to poach all of the young stars out of the CJHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Any North American has to be at least 20 to play in the AHL, I believe (although not 100%) that Euro players can play at a younger age. I think it has to do with an NHL agreement not to poach all of the young stars out of the CJHL.I wonder what the agreement is like with leagues other than the CHL. If you skip the CHL, and somehow, you end up playing in the CIS (Canadian Interuniversity Sport) and catch some team's eye, it sounds like you would be eligible at 18. What about NCAA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) @brelicOnly the CHL has the agreement. Since it is basically THE amateur development league for the NHL which also generally has the youngest players, the idea was it was best not to be yo-yoing these kids back and forth. You can leave college, any college (NCAA or CIS) anytime you want. You might want to make sure you have a career in hockey ahead of you first though. Edited July 11, 2013 by flyercanuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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