radoran Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Why did his head hit at the angle it did? With his shoulders almost perpendicular to the ice? As I clearly pointed out in the video, Wilson hits Schenn in the side. You can see it clear as day at the marks I noted - not just from that one angle in the start of the video. This isn't Schenn "turning into" the boards a la Bergeron, etc. Is there a slight move? Yes. A reflex/reaction, if that - not an "ill-advised decision" as you termed it. You put the onus on Schenn "turning" not Wilson - the player actually committing the infraction with the illegal hit. That's bonkers. If Schenn had turtled or turned his back to Wilson, then some - some - of the onus may come back onto him. As it is, his actions don't directly affect the outcome in any significant way. Wilson doesn't see Schenn's numbers on the back because Schenn never has his back turned toward him. A minute turn "at the last second"? Sure. But you can see Schenn's numbers when he gets hit and Wilson isn't hitting them. Wilson's penalty was charging - and that's what it was. The point being that Schenn "turning" had little to do with whether or not his head could or did impact the boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Absolutely.What's the downside to taking a baseline test? Did we *finally* find something that McCrossin obviously screwed up?? I've been looking for a obvious oversight like this for decades....GET THIS GUY OUT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Did we *finally* find something that McCrossin obviously screwed up?? I've been looking for a obvious oversight like this for decades....GET THIS GUY OUT! Funny, I've been trying to find something he got right for decades....still waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Funny, I've been trying to find something he got right for decades....still waiting. "Look, Eric, quit yer bitchin' and get on the damn plane. It's not like it'll kill ya!" Oh, wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 @radoran No kidding...can you imagine if that was you or your kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 "Look, Eric, quit yer bitchin' and get on the damn plane. It's not like it'll kill ya!" Oh, wait... I often wonder what Eric buys Keith Jones for Christmas every year? Gotta be something fantastic Ya know, for the whole saving his life and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 @radoran No kidding...can you imagine if that was you or your kid? You mean, might it make me question my faith in the management of the team? Just might, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 No suspension for Wilson. (sorry, can't post the link to the video) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 No suspension for Wilson. (sorry, can't post the link to the video) wow.. gotta say.. i'm pretty surprised by this one. I mean... that would seem to be a hit the league would want out of the game. I guess now they're saying it's quite alright to take a few strides into a player who's a few feet from the boards. I mean.. suppose he broke his neck? just because it didn't happen... doesn't mean it can't and won't next time. but, ok.. i guess that's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlyer1 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 wow.. gotta say.. i'm pretty surprised by this one. I mean... that would seem to be a hit the league would want out of the game. I guess now they're saying it's quite alright to take a few strides into a player who's a few feet from the boards. I mean.. suppose he broke his neck? just because it didn't happen... doesn't mean it can't and won't next time. but, ok.. i guess that's fine. No surprise Shanahan does not like the Flyers and if he can go against them on a close call he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 No surprise Shanahan does not like the Flyers and if he can go against them on a close call he will.Yep, and cases like this fuel the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Exactly. Intent doesn't matter. He clearly didn't intend to treat Schenn with respect.He had a choice. Try to kill a guy or don't. He made his choice. The league has to set the example to keep this crap from happening. Randy Jones. This better be 6 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Exactly. Intent doesn't matter. He clearly didn't intend to treat Schenn with respect.He had a choice. Try to kill a guy or don't. He made his choice. The league has to set the example to keep this crap from happening. The league needs consistency. That will go a long way towards letting players know what will and will not be tolerated.A Flyer got 6 games for a similar hit, and a guy demolishing a Flyer gets zero games or dollars in penalties. Seems legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedZep Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Charging/boarding was obvious. The arms shoving Schenn directly into the boards is all the "intent" one needs. People were talking about a possible 10 games, which seemed much, but ZERO? Shanny's and the league's perpetual bias are EFDUP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 This is the message that has players NOT knowing what a good hit is and what isn't. I already mentioned I didn't think they should throw the book at him, but even a game would let a guy like Wilson know that's an unacceptable hit. Same with the Quincey Getzlaf one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I am baffled that this was not at least a one game suspension. Forget the boarding - that was a textbook charge w/ the intent to injure. Shanny is a tool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quigster Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The way Shanahan tells it, Schenn was the one at fault. The Flyers are soft! Until they start playing like NHLers they will continue to get pushed around,cheap shots aplenty,etc.. Montreal has a small team,but they are very chippy and stand up for each other. That's non-existent here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I don't see intent to injure. I see Schenn turn a little but Wilson drives him anyway. I figured a game myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quigster Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 If anybody thinks Wilson made a solid play on Schenn,take Wilson out and insert Rinaldo. How would you and Shanny grade that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 If anybody thinks Wilson made a solid play on Schenn,take Wilson out and insert Rinaldo. How would you and Shanny grade that?It would be six games and a thread here about his moronic play that hurt the team with a 5 min major and game misconduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The driver speeding down the residential street at 45 MPH in a 20 MPH zone isn't cleared of hitting the child because the child turned to try to get back to the curb. There was one guy who was doing something blatantly illegal on the ice and caused the potentially dangerous situation. That guy wasn't Brayden Schenn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 FWIW... i was playing NHL13 last night and managed to pretty much make the exact same hit on a player. I purposely charged and was totally looking to annihilate my opponent. Interestingly, the result of the hit put the player into the boards in a very similar manner to Schenn. NOT EVEN A CALL on the play. There you have it folks... it's settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 FWIW... i was playing NHL13 last night and managed to pretty much make the exact same hit on a player. I purposely charged and was totally looking to annihilate my opponent. Interestingly, the result of the hit put the player into the boards in a very similar manner to Schenn. NOT EVEN A CALL on the play. There you have it folks... it's settled. What does Tony Romo do after winning the Super Bowl? Turns off the xBox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 FWIW... i was playing NHL13 last night and managed to pretty much make the exact same hit on a player. I purposely charged and was totally looking to annihilate my opponent. Interestingly, the result of the hit put the player into the boards in a very similar manner to Schenn. NOT EVEN A CALL on the play. There you have it folks... it's settled.Was the player you hit named "Brad Marchand"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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