AJgoal Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, brelic said: Not sure how it works. @vis might know. Is an indictment enough to suspend / terminate employment? Maybe suspend pending the outcome? I don't know how that plays in the CBA. That's a question for @aziz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 8:36 PM, ruxpin said: That's what they meant by "Lehtera is on the fourth line tonight." F&$#ING CLASSIC!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Meanwhile, over in Minnesota Wild Land... Mikael Granlund and Mikko Koivu are signing affidavits that they knew NOTHING of the activities in the summer house, and that Koivu, while away from his team on "IR", was indeed dropping off ONLY bags of sugar for the upcoming cookie festival...…….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 7:36 PM, ruxpin said: That's what they meant by "Lehtera is on the fourth line tonight." And NOW you know why Jori was so "versatile" and didn't care what line you put him on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, murraycraven said: Speaking of which all these drugs were in Rick's system when he died Xanax, Valium, Vicodin and Wellbutrin, Meth and a few for his heart. Wow a walking drug store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Speaking of which all these drugs were in Rick's system when he died Xanax, Valium, Vicodin and Wellbutrin, Meth and a few for his heart. Wow a walking drug store. damm ...there is a few drug interactions for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, pilldoc said: damm ...there is a few drug interactions for ya! Along with Digoxin, chlorpheniramine, citalopram, and cocaine I forgot to list earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vis Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, brelic said: Not sure how it works. @vis might know. Is an indictment enough to suspend / terminate employment? Maybe suspend pending the outcome? Have to imagine indictment on drug charges of this sort is sufficient to terminate his contract under a "morals" clause. I think the Kings took that approach with Richards and although challenged by the NHLPA and ultimately settled, the "facts" here seem much more egregious than in Richards' case. Plus, the NHLPA was probably able to make a convincing argument that the Kings used Richards' issues as a pretext for terminating an onerous contract. Lehtera's contract is not nearly as problematic as Richards', nor is the Flyers' cap situation. I don't know how quickly Visas can get revoked based on an indictment (as opposed to a convection). Not really in my bailiwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, AJgoal said: I don't know how that plays in the CBA. That's a question for @aziz. i heard my name? not entirely sure with the current CBA (i haven't even watched a hockey game in two years at this point), but it would definitely be grounds for contract termination back when i knew what i was talking about. it's how LA got rid of Richards a few years back, when he got caught with oxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, vis said: Plus, the NHLPA was probably able to make a convincing argument that the Kings used Richards' issues as a pretext for terminating an onerous contract. Lehtera's contract is not nearly as problematic as Richards', nor is the Flyers' cap situation. that's a very interesting (and good) point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheslot Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Grant said (no comment)............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, aziz said: 2 hours ago, AJgoal said: I don't know how that plays in the CBA. That's a question for @aziz. i heard my name? Good to see you my friend ...hope all is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, aziz said: i heard my name? not entirely sure with the current CBA (i haven't even watched a hockey game in two years at this point), but it would definitely be grounds for contract termination back when i knew what i was talking about. it's how LA got rid of Richards a few years back, when he got caught with oxy. Hey bud, really good to see you. Hope you're doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 McDonald is under investigation for fraud and grand theft. He has been impersonating a defenseman and stealing a paycheck for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, RonJeremy said: McDonald is under investigation for fraud and grand theft. He has been impersonating a defenseman and stealing a paycheck for years. The evidence before the court isIncontrivertable, there's no need forThe jury to retire.In all my years of judgingI have never heard before Of someone more deservingOf the full penaltie of law.The way you made them suffer, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, pilldoc said: The evidence before the court isIncontrivertable, there's no need forThe jury to retire.In all my years of judgingI have never heard before Of someone more deservingOf the full penaltie of law.The way you made them suffer, To the Pit of Misery! Dilly!! Dilly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, FD19372 said: To the Pit of Misery! Dilly!! Dilly!! Dilly! Dilly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Say hi to Tyrone, Jori. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 16 hours ago, vis said: Have to imagine indictment on drug charges of this sort is sufficient to terminate his contract under a "morals" clause. I think the Kings took that approach with Richards and although challenged by the NHLPA and ultimately settled, the "facts" here seem much more egregious than in Richards' case. Plus, the NHLPA was probably able to make a convincing argument that the Kings used Richards' issues as a pretext for terminating an onerous contract. Lehtera's contract is not nearly as problematic as Richards', nor is the Flyers' cap situation. I don't know how quickly Visas can get revoked based on an indictment (as opposed to a convection). Not really in my bailiwick. Great point. There's really no urgency at this point other than optics - and that will speak to their tolerance level as an organization I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, brelic said: Great point. There's really no urgency at this point other than optics - and that will speak to their tolerance level as an organization I suppose. And the bum will be gone at the end of the year too IF they can't even basically give him away at the trade deadline to a needy team (yeah they would have to God awful needy to want him know but a brother can dream can't he?). At this point right now there may be only two UFAs I would try and bring back. Raffl and Elliott and Elliott is still a maybe depending on if/when he comes back and how he performs can change all that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: And the bum will be gone at the end of the year too IF they can't even basically give him away at the trade deadline to a needy team (yeah they would have to God awful needy to want him know but a brother can dream can't he?). Depends what they need 5 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: At this point right now there may be only two UFAs I would try and bring back. Raffl and Elliott and Elliott is still a maybe depending on if/when he comes back and how he performs can change all that quickly. Yeah, I don't know about Elliott. I mean, a healthy Elliott, sure. He's a fine tandem/backup goalie. But if he becomes unreliable, I don't know that the Flyers want to go through that again. Raffl is a no brainer. Love his game and work ethic. He brings it every night, can play anywhere in the lineup in a pinch, and actually has some skill. That pass was a beauty last night. Oh, and he plays a "heavy" game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 12 hours ago, FD19372 said: Say hi to Tyrone, Jori. always loved this skit... along with Ashy Larry.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 @ruxpin @pilldoc hey, guys, thanks for the shout. things are going well. this whole post-hockey thing is weird after those 30 years, but definitely less stressful. stay strong, everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, brelic said: Depends what they need A slow plodding yet "HEAVY" center/LW of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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