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Do you like this hire?  

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  1. 1. What is your reaction to the hiring of AV?

    • Love it!
      5
    • Cautiously Optimistic
      28
    • Hey at least it is a HC with NHL experience
      12
    • Hell no ... we are doomed
      5


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10 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

Shall we go ahead and fire up the "Fire Vigneault!" thread you know it's coming just as soon as @ruxpin gets here in 3, 2, 1....

 

Just as long as you don't forget about my "Fire Fletcher" thread.  

btw, firing is too good for Homer.  

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It could be worse. Fact is, Vigneault is going to bring in structure and discipline. People talked about him not using young players, but in Vancouver and New York, but both teams pretty much stripped the farm systems of youth and depth in order to compete for a Stanley Cup. And let's be honest, in 2010 - 2011, nobody predicted Tim Thomas would go on a run like no other and help Boston win the Stanley Cup. His performance was one of the ages. Nobody predicted that to happen. 

 

Vigneault comes to Philadelphia with a boatload of youth available to him. If anything, I expect he's going to embrace the youth and really help them get their games to the next level. If you take a look everywhere he's been (minus Montreal and as an assistant in Ottawa), players really thrived under his watch. His teams also played very cerebral and smart hockey. He's got some good veterans in Philadelphia he can lean on and he'll be able to trust the young players. 

 

We heard from Fletcher and Gordon about the Flyers lack of discipline and not being difficult to play against because they left the center ice area open. That's going to change. We're also going to witness the defense become more active and we're going to see more defense-led rushes. I'm willing to give him a chance. It can't be any worse than what we subjected to in the Haktard era.

 

Couturier, Patrick, Konecny, Lindblom, Farabee, Frost, Provorov, Sanheim, Gostisbehere, Morin and Meyers will all thrive under Vigneault. I'm cautiously optimistic.

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1 minute ago, Special guest speaker said:

Maybe he'll bring some solid coaching to the D cause they need it big time .....

That's a good point.  Probably my only positive thought on the hiring. 

 

Welcome to this community btw.

:welcome:

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Fletcher: Scott Gordon did a good job for the Flyers. Came in under tough circumstances. When I spoke to him this morning, he was disappointed. I told him to take couple weeks and then we'll talk again. The Lehigh Valley job is his if he wants it. We didn't get into it.

 

 

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By far the best choice they could have made given the options.  A little surprised they didn't wait to see what shook loose after the playoffs, but I'm good with this. 

 

I know folks were saying Keefe, and I think he'll be a very good NHL coach. Yet, I don't think this was a good situation for him, and I'd have been stunned if they went for their 3rd straight coach (not counting Gordon) with no NHL experience.  I don't think that would have been good for Keefe given the fact the boys have ruled the island for so long. 

 

Gordon wasn't an option. Had he snuck into the playoffs and stole a Cup, I don't know that they bring him back. It just wasn't the deal going in (okay, maybe if he did the above, but it probably would have taken that). 

 

AV has a history of leaning on vets over kids, but unless a ton happens over the summer, he's really not going to have that option here. 

 

Time will tell, but I picked "cautiously optimistic."

 

 

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3 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

AV has a history of leaning on vets over kids

 

This is mostly urban legend.

 

It's mostly because he didn't have a lot of good kids to lean on in Vancouver or NY because they mortgaged most of them and picks going on Cup runs.

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2 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

This is mostly urban legend.

 

It's mostly because he didn't have a lot of good kids to lean on in Vancouver or NY because they mortgaged most of them and picks going on Cup runs.

Yeah, I agree. On both clubs he had largely vets. So, if his one or two kids got less playing time (on contending teams, no less!) he gets that press.  He's going to have a vastly different situation here, so I'm really not concerned. 

 

And if kids have to earn it, I'm okay with that. 

 

If he's playing MacDonald over any of the kids, then FIRE VIGNEAULT! (just for you). 

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1 hour ago, hf101 said:

What has Vigneault won?  A career 0.588 winning percentage. 

 

In fairness, six division titles, three President's Trophies, and two Conference Titles.

 

No, it's not a Cup, but it's a lot better than nothing.

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3 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

Yeah, I agree. On both clubs he had largely vets. So, if his one or two kids got less playing time (on contending teams, no less!) he gets that press.  He's going to have a vastly different situation here, so I'm really not concerned. 

 

And if kids have to earn it, I'm okay with that. 

 

If he's playing MacDonald over any of the kids, then FIRE VIGNEAULT! (just for you). 

 

2016 no 1st or 2nd

2015 no 1st

2014 no 1st

2013 no 1st or 2nd

 

So not a lot to stock the cupboards with.

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26 minutes ago, radoran said:

 

In fairness, six division titles, three President's Trophies, and two Conference Titles.

 

No, it's not a Cup, but it's a lot better than nothing.

 

Plus 3 Jack Adams'

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