Howie58 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Greetings: Calgary is favored (-135) with a 57% win probability: https://www.dimers.com/news/philadelphia-flyers-vs-calgary-flames-prediction-odds-nhl-picks-12312023-48572 Statistically, they are better on faceoffs and a tad better offensively; neither team sets the league on fire with the PP: https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/cgy-vs-phi/2023/12/31/2023020570 Historically, we do well against them, but the advantage has been home-based: https://champsorchumps.us/team/nhl/philadelphia-flyers/head-to-head/calgary-flames We should be rested. LGF! Edited January 1 by Howie58 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 should be a good one, 2 teams pretty evenly-matched. Hope I get to see some of it live. New Year's Eve 8pm EST is a helluva time to pick for an NHL game. I'm surprised to see so many games on the schedule for tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 16 hours ago, Howie58 said: neither team sets the league on fire with the PP Lol, understatment of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 I was thinking about it earlier today--interesting that we're the underdog. Our record is better and we've played well on the road. I don't know about the algorithms or coin tosses they use to set these line, but this seems a bit strange. Granted, the Flames aren't overwhelming favorites. Still, I wonder if the oddsmakers or their tools are telling us that we're over-achievers or that their methods haven't caught up with our recent play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Howie58 said: I was thinking about it earlier today--interesting that we're the underdog. Our record is better and we've played well on the road. I don't know about the algorithms or coin tosses they use to set these line, but this seems a bit strange. Granted, the Flames aren't overwhelming favorites. Still, I wonder if the oddsmakers or their tools are telling us that we're over-achievers or that their methods haven't caught up with our recent play? I'm curious what the advanced stats say--whether there's something the eye test isn't necessarily seeing. Not the the advanced stats are correct and the eye test isn't, but maybe there's something there that is causing a different math. I'm happy being the underdog. We're from Philly, ####ing Philly, no one likes us, we don't care. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 And we've played well against +>.500 teams. Agreed, let's be underdogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) well we still have Ristolainen...an automatic ding on the Flyers' odds - at least for winning. I see it's Ersson tonight is Hart okay or what...still got the bug? TK is in tonight, he had it recently did he even miss a shift? Hart's been sick for weeks now (it seems). Edited January 1 by GratefulFlyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Nice goal by Risto!! Flyers playing their 3rd in 4 nights with travel while Flames are only playing their second game in 8 days. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 9 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said: well we still have Ristolainen...an automatic ding on the Flyers' odds - at least for winning. I see it's Ersson tonight is Hart okay or what...still got the bug? TK is in tonight, he had it recently did he even miss a shift? Hart's been sick for weeks now (it seems). That automatic ding just scored a goal. Nice play by Farabee to get that puck to Risto, who goes to the net, where good things happen. Really nice play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) good lord Ristolainen actually got one this year - made it by a few hours. Will wonders never cease with these Flyers? Poehling-?-Farrabee great forecheck up by the blue line made that goal happen but credit Ristolainen it wasn't an easy tap-in he actually had to shoot the puck and he nailed it! edit: Ersson is standing on his head yet again...and he's getting good help from the skaters pouncing on loose pucks, clearing the doorstep. Edited January 1 by GratefulFlyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Ersson had his Wheaties. Markstrom is no slouch. This is a battle of PKs. Meanwhile, our offense is lacking. If only we had a PP that could put the puck in the net. There's better movement, but nothing to show for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Our PP can sap momentum. Meanwhile, we are in a run-and-gun mode. I am amazed they skate this well. Can they win with that approach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, GratefulFlyers said: well we still have Ristolainen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Not smart getting into a horse race. Torts must be quietly furious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Maybe the bookies have insight. We are making Calgary look like world beaters. I think we are 0 for 4 on PP. We are making it interesting getting it to 3-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notfondajane Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, FD19372 said: That automatic ding just scored a goal. Nice play by Farabee to get that puck to Risto, who goes to the net, where good things happen. Really nice play. Happy new year FD! I hope it's safe and prosperous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 This was like the Seattle game. We scored first and the momentum kept swinging to Calgary. The Gilbert goal was the kind of snipe you'd like to see from our forwards. I don't fault effort or compete level. But we can't play this style of hockey without a different set of forwards. And the PP....that's a poop show. A final note: I agree with Chris Maher that Cam Atkinson is a non-factor these days. I wonder if he's going to recover from his injury and time off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Crazy as hell now that the best coach in Philly is John Tortorella now after Nick Sirianni seems to be just a fraud. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 So they let it slip away... bummer. The Flyers apparently had no interest in Team D after the 1st. Gilbert's goal says it all. All 5 Flyers chase the puck and Gilbert is wide open not much of a chance for Ersson. Ersson made 10-bell after 10-bell but he finally cracked when Kadri got his goal. 4 on 4, a 2 on 1 - hard to fault a goalie. By then, about 5mins left in the game Ersson had been beaten down for 55mins. I can't blame him for letting that one get past him. Great almost-comeback. First time in years I've seen the Flyers score after pulling their goalie...twice right? Brink and Zamula. Nice to see Zamula shoot with confidence that was a beauty from the blue line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said: So they let it slip away... bummer. The Flyers apparently had no interest in Team D after the 1st. Gilbert's goal says it all. All 5 Flyers chase the puck and Gilbert is wide open not much of a chance for Ersson. Ersson made 10-bell after 10-bell but he finally cracked when Kadri got his goal. 4 on 4, a 2 on 1 - hard to fault a goalie. By then, about 5mins left in the game Ersson had been beaten down for 55mins. I can't blame him for letting that one get past him. Great almost-comeback. First time in years I've seen the Flyers score after pulling their goalie...twice right? Brink and Zamula. Nice to see Zamula shoot with confidence that was a beauty from the blue line. Grateful: These are gamers. There was no embarrassment. I think we are getting a read on team development/composition. They don't have a strong enough offense to balance goalie or defensive errors. Zamula may be morphing before our eyes. That's a plus. Hopefully, the New Year brings an improved PP. It is unpleasant to watch and a momentum destroyer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 @Howie58 I swear I see unmistakable signs that the PP is coming together… and then they can’t get the puck into the zone and it’s another 0-for night. It’s weird. Winning more draws always helps. Couturier had a good night at the dots, Laughton too I think. Nice to see Zamula growing into his role there’s a lot to like about his game especially lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 51 minutes ago, Howie58 said: Grateful: These are gamers. There was no embarrassment. I think we are getting a read on team development/composition. They don't have a strong enough offense to balance goalie or defensive errors. Zamula may be morphing before our eyes. That's a plus. Hopefully, the New Year brings an improved PP. It is unpleasant to watch and a momentum destroyer. We have some creative playmaking PP guys up front like Frost, Farabee and Brink and we also have some pure shooters like Konecny, Tippett and Foerster. I do think once Mickov and his elite skill level join the PP it will be greatly improved. Still the biggest problem is the lack of a high end PP QB on the blueline . We have had this problem for years. Without a catalyst setting things up from the defense our PP will continue to suck. We have changed head coaches, PP coaches and players ,yet the PP is still a joke. Even when when we had Giroux the PP was mediocre. They would pass the puck around ,never get any clean point shots, all the passes were telegraphed , we never had any creative tic tac toe goals. We had Voracek who has zero creativity working the point. If you look at the common denominator its been the same for years,.which is a lack of offensive PP skill and creativity starting from the defense. We need an offensive dynamo on the blueline . It all start with having a guy to QB and lead the PP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Thanks for reminding me….Foerster. He has got to start shooting the damn puck! I love the guy I realize he’s just a rookie. I’m amazed his game is so nearly complete already. But he’s a goal-scorer who’s not scoring goals. For the 2nd half of this season he should be encouraged to concentrate on shooting the puck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 16 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said: Thanks for reminding me….Foerster. He has got to start shooting the damn puck! I love the guy I realize he’s just a rookie. I’m amazed his game is so nearly complete already. But he’s a goal-scorer who’s not scoring goals. For the 2nd half of this season he should be encouraged to concentrate on shooting the puck. I think he's just trying to be a team player and setup the other guys,but yes he needs to shoot more. For the first time in ages we have 3-4 guys who can really shoot the puck,.now we just need few playmaking centers to set up the shooters. I'm still hoping Frost can take the next step,he definitely has playmaking skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Foerster is playing with Frost and #89. End of story. He played briefly with #14 and #11 and he produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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