Podein25 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I never thought of that, but now that you mention it, it makes a LOT of sense. And in fact the long snapper is also officially called a "centre" (or "center" as we say in America) if I'm not mistaken. They're almost the same thing...Ha, you yanks sure have a funny way of talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 @Podein25Long live the king or all things hockey and logic.... er, I mean Kings.... What do you call a king with multiple personalities? We? King George and I? Ahhh fak it.Man I am not even conversing with him, nor have I read his drivel in nearly a month, and my brain hurts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 $1M in cap space immediately and both are UFAs at the end of the year. That's about it.I think I was pretty clear I wouldn't want Gill prior to that post, but I was searching in the dark for some sort of rationale.So "IF" they "had" to move someone to get Gill... Which they don't.Thus - "but with Carle taking up minutes and elevating play - why bother? " If I'm moving Carle it's at the trade deadline. Defencemen are valuable assets at that time of year, and I think Carle brings more than Gill in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 If I'm moving Carle it's at the trade deadline. Defencemen are valuable assets at that time of year, and I think Carle brings more than Gill in a trade.I would hope so, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Who knows who or what is on the table. But, Gill's value to Montreal has diminished somewhat since he's no longer the one and only partner for Subban. And, Flyers have a history of trading for cheap replacements to plug anticipated holes. Pronger may be out and although Gill is not nearly as good, he does have a veteran's presence. I dunno, and I don't like to speculate, but I really wouldn't be suprised to see Gill coming here. And, if he does, that reveals the extent of Pronger's injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I have the unfortunate experience of watching a decent amount of Habs games, and Gill is a defensive liability. He plays with an edge, can clear the crease, and brings a veteran presence in the lockerroom, but a defensive dynamo he's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'd have had more interest in Spacek.He was traded to Carolina last week for Kaberle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Well it would please the Carle haters! That's something. They won't ever again have to wake up to see his name on the boxscore read 2A, 2P, +3lol, thats about all this rumor would accomplish.I see no reason what so ever to make a defensive trade with Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 @Digityman- No offense, but that might be one of the most idiotic blogs I have read. Hal Gil is a 36 y/o pilon that has been a combined -24 over 2 + seasons with Montreal. Campoli is out INDEFINITELY with and injury(months, not weeks). Why in the world would Montreal move Kaberle whom they just acquired to try and jump start their anemic power play?? Add to that, why would the highest scoring team in the league (philadelphia) be looking for a d-man like Kaberle (whom they could have acquired directly from Carolina). Then of course there is the fact that Montreal is HURTING for d-men with both Campoli and Markhov on the shelf. Lastly, the author never mentions who the Flyers would get to take Hartnells spot as the second leading scorer on the team and an astounding +18??? That article should be called a boggle not a blog because that is exactly what it did to my mind in reading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Maybe they've seen him play D?When did Kaberle ever play D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 And no way I am moving Carle for Gill. What would this trade gain exactly?Despite all the bashing that Carle gets here, he is actually having a pretty decent year (contract year and all that). With pronger being out, he and Coburn have been picking up more minutes (they regularly are alternating 23-25 minutes a night instead of dumping those minutes on the not so spry Kimmo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Gill is a good idea, but would Habs give him up?Why is a gil a good idea?? Maybe 3-4 years ago he was a good idea. But not the 36 turn style that he is now. People bemoan Carle on here (who is actually playing pretty well right now). Gil would get eaten alive. Think poor mans Rathje (sans injury). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I never thought of that, but now that you mention it, it makes a LOT of sense. And in fact the long snapper is also officially called a "centre" (or "center" as we say in America) if I'm not mistaken. They're almost the same thing...What about short snaps? Does a centre in hockey take short snaps too?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Pronger may be out and although Gill is not nearly as good, he does have a veteran's presence.Isn't that what we pay Shellley for??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 What about short snaps? Does a centre in hockey take short snaps too??Well, I think sometimes they take short naps between long snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Why would we trade Hartnell ? He is having a huge season, especially for two grossly overpaid failures like Kaberle or Gomez. Whoever wrote that article is a ttoal moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 If Hartnell were traded to the Habs, he would be their points and goal-scoring leader.What does that tell you? Warrior needs food, badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 No offense, but that might be one of the most idiotic blogs I have read.No offense taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlyer1 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 If you are winning why mess with the Chemistry? Gill is a bit long in the tooth. Flyers have some promising young guys and they should get a good look first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyguys03 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The bottom line is that there isn't a single d-man on the habs that would make the flyers better. There is a reason why they are at .500 and the flyers are leading the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The bottom line is that there isn't a single d-man on the habs that would make the flyers better.I would argue that Markhov does, but he is made of glass now and his cap hit is higher than Prongers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyguys03 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I would argue that Markhov does, but he is made of glass now and his cap hit is higher than Prongers.Yes. I kept in mind his made-of-glass-ness when saying there are none that would make the flyers better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I would argue that Markhov does, but he is made of glass now and his cap hit is higher than Prongers.The Markov of two years ago? Yes.The Markov who missed most of last season and hasn't played this season because of his knee? Not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange_crush Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm in favor of trading Carle for Gill just kidding, I really don't think we need to tweak the lineup right now..I think Bourdon, Marshall, and Gus have filled in nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrX Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Bleacher Reporti think the idea of Kaberle is crazy as bat sh!t. Montreal just traded for him and now they might turn around and trade him to the Flyers? That's just absurd. On top pf that, at some point you have to stop with the contract talk and focus on the on ice perfromance. Why would the Flyers trade away Hartnell? He's playing great and is a key part of a team in first place. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.If you want to make a trade, male one that will make the team even better than they are now. Move Bobrovsky and another younger player to secure a needed piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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