brelic Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Team stats Team GP W L OTL PTS GF GA PP (Rank) PK (Rank) Last 10 Streak Flyers 13 6 6 1 13 47 48 27.4% (4th) 77.5% (24th) 5-5-0 Lost 1 Red Wings 13 6 6 1 13 35 35 19.1% (14th) 80.5% (19th) 5-4-1 Lost 2 Game preview http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Meltzer/Flyers-Gameday-11816-vs-DET/45/80507 Projected lineups FLYERS 24 Matt Read - 28 Claude Giroux - 17 Wayne Simmonds 11 Travis Konecny - 14 Sean Couturier - 92 Jakub Voracek 12 Michael Raffl - 10 Brayden Schenn - 22 Dale Weise 76 Chris VandeVelde - 76 P-E Bellemare - 13 Roman Lyubimov 15 Michael Del Zotto - 53 Shayne Gostisbehere 23 Brandon Manning - 3 Radko Gudas 9 Ivan Provorov - 32 Mark Streit 35 Steve Mason [30 Michal Neuvirth] Scratches: Nick Schultz (healthy),Nick Cousins (healthy), Andrew MacDonald (lower body), Boyd Gordon (LTIR, upper body), Scott Laughton (could be activated from LTIR). RED WINGS 71 Dylan Larkin - 51 Frans Nielsen - 59 Tyler Bertuzzi 21 Tomas Tatar - 40 Henrik Zetterberg - 8 Justin Abdelkader 72 Andreas Athanasiou - 43 Darren Helm - 14 Gustav Nyquist 15 Riley Sheahan - 41 Luke Glendening - 29 Steve Ott 65 Danny DeKeyser - 55 Niklas Kronwall 52 Jonathan Ericsson - 25 Mike Green 2 Brendan Smith - 53 Alexey Marchenko 35 Jimmy Howard / 34 Petr Mrazek Scratches: Ryan Sproul (healthy), Drew Miller (healthy), Xavier Ouellet (healthy), Thomas Vanek (LTIR, lower body), Tomas Jurco (back), Joe Vitale (LTIR, concussion), Johan Franzén (LTIR, post-concussion syndrome). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Wow, its seems like forever since Mason has played. He's either going to be highly motivated or very rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Yes. Hoping we don't need to see Neuvy tonight. And not because he hasn't been playing well (although a win is a win, he hasn't) but more because I'm hoping Mason is more lights out than he has been. Well than either has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheslot Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This team needs to play some shut down hockey. They can score but can't stop other teams from scoring. Goalies or D got to step up with wingers coming back to help . Go Flyers .. 4 to 2 flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, intheslot said: This team needs to play some shut down hockey. Agreed. But I'm not sure they know how to do that. I haven't watched very many of their games, but from what I've seen there's lots of panic in their game, especially in their own end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Scott Laughton (could be activated from LTIR). I'm pretty sure he has already been activated ans is assigned to LV on a conditioning assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Podein25 said: there's lots of panic in their game, especially in their own end. started again tonight already - 3 bad TOs in front of Mason, 1 of them turns into a goal. In the O zone and on the PP the Flyers have poise and focus but defensively they're nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Turnover aside..not sure where Mase's head was on that goals...he looked awkward. Communication between D and G must be limited to nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Nice hit by TK on Ott!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Konecny has been on his game...active, hitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Well. Been 20 years and now it's snapped. Oh well this team has many issues...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Mase was OK....not great but at least competent. His teammates didn't look too impressive in the SO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Just now, Howie58 said: Mase was OK....not great but at least competent. His teammates didn't look too impressive in the SO. Disagree on Mason. I thought the first goal was soft and he went down way too soon on the second. He probably could have stayed up because Andreas Alphabetsoup skated too far in and took away his own angle. Once Mason went down the whole top of the net was open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Alaska: I have to agree on the first goal; second was a great shot to the corner. "Competent" from a Flyers goalie these days is almost golden given the crud we've seen to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 12 hours ago, Howie58 said: Alaska: I have to agree on the first goal; second was a great shot to the corner. "Competent" from a Flyers goalie these days is almost golden given the crud we've seen to date. In any event, 2 goals is far better than 5 and Mason was sharp other times. He looked better than he has. Improvement is all I'm asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Anyone wish the flyers would grab a guy like Athanasiou? I know nothing about him but I can see that he has a ton of skill and speed. I heard blashill hasn't been thrilled with him so far this season, but I would still like a threat like that on the third line and in the shootout. He could replace read, Laughton, raffel, cousins, weise, or vandevelde. Do any of those guys offer more than him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 42 minutes ago, icehole said: Anyone wish the flyers would grab a guy like Athanasiou? I know nothing about him but I can see that he has a ton of skill and speed. I heard blashill hasn't been thrilled with him so far this season, but I would still like a threat like that on the third line and in the shootout. He could replace read, Laughton, raffel, cousins, weise, or vandevelde. Do any of those guys offer more than him? We did much better by snatching Gostisbehere in the same draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, icehole said: Anyone wish the flyers would grab a guy like Athanasiou? I know nothing about him but I can see that he has a ton of skill and speed. I heard blashill hasn't been thrilled with him so far this season, but I would still like a threat like that on the third line and in the shootout. He could replace read, Laughton, raffel, cousins, weise, or vandevelde. Do any of those guys offer more than him? I love his game, from what I've seen. But players like this don't usually get moved unless a team is giving up on him, in which case I don't necessarily want him. It's tough to break into that DET system. Gotta pay your dues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 @brelic @podein25 I'm not saying he should have been taken over ghost or they should try to trade for him. I just can't remember a player that the flyers ever drafted late that has straight up raw skill and speed. He's a third liner that was drafted 110 overall so he must have some weakness in his game. He probably wont show up consistently either. I just like having a threat like that with little invested. If Detroit had read, Raff, Laughton, cousins, weise, or Vandevelde on their third line, they probably lose that game in regulation or maybe in the shootout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 @icehole the wings have a system though, they value certain skill sets more heavily than some other teams and their track record has been pretty good with it over the years. They really value creativity with the puck, hand eye coordination and speed. The figure they can mold the player into the other role but if they are all ++ with the puck that's a win in the bottom 6. Sometimes they run into trouble by taking guys with high skill but weak motors, but for the most part if a guy winds up with the winged wheel on his sweater he will have a lot of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, icehole said: @brelic @podein25 I'm not saying he should have been taken over ghost or they should try to trade for him. I just can't remember a player that the flyers ever drafted late that has straight up raw skill and speed. He's a third liner that was drafted 110 overall so he must have some weakness in his game. He probably wont show up consistently either. I just like having a threat like that with little invested. If Detroit had read, Raff, Laughton, cousins, weise, or Vandevelde on their third line, they probably lose that game in regulation or maybe in the shootout. I just named one. In the same draft. 3rd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 @mojo1917 I think we can agree that the redwings system is a pretty good system, so shouldn't we take some pointers from them? They have had history with guys that might not have all the heart that you want to see, but they even that out with the zetterbergs, Datsyuks, and lindstroms. Seems like they might be running out of those types of players though. The flyers have some level headed guys on the team. I don't think it would be so bad to add a hot-head if he has great speed and skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, brelic said: I just named one. In the same draft. 3rd rounder. Who's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 @icehole Shayne Gostibehere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 39 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: @icehole Shayne Gostibehere Lindblom may not have the speed, but he certainly seems like he has the skill. 5th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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