Kirill Kaprizov signs 5-Year, $45 Million Deal

[CreaseAndAssist]

Wild Sign Kirill Kaprizov to 5-year, $45 million deal and more Wild news

 

I share my thoughts on the deal and other Wild news.  I really don't get the full no trade the last two years.  Stupid and too much money.  Enjoy and discuss.

[radoran]

A player can only sign an extension in the last year of the deal.

[Bear]

That no trade deal is a win for him puts him in complete control BG screwed the pooch big time. I dont believe how stupid that was.

[Jimtown guy]

I’m fully on board. Downside is after this season it’s going to be tough to get him some help. Hopefully the young guys step up

Edited September 22, 2021 by Jimtown guy

[Jimtown guy]

 

[Alexandron]

He came a day before the camp is starting. 53 Wild players without Kaprizov and 54 with him we are going to see tomorrow at the camp. Nice for the team to have him at the camp, because he was able to get a visa and air plane tickets before that time. With him the team will look better,as well as youngsters will get a better experience out of him. 82 games of full season seems very intriguing for our team with Kaprizov, Fiala, Boldy, Rossi and practically changed blue lines. Hope our goalies will play stronger too this season.

[Alexandron]

According to Sarah McLellan (our Wild commentator) we will see Kirill Kaprizov on ice during practice on Thursday.

[CreaseAndAssist]

10 hours ago, radoran said:

A player can only sign an extension in the last year of the deal.

 

Either way, they'll have to start that process way sooner and hope to continue to convince him to sign that at the end of Year 4.  But I don't think that will play out too well for the Wild.  But my guess is they start that process before the No Trade Kicks in; because that is effectively the point of no return (literally and figuratively).  

[Math]

Well, $9M AAV it is. Which makes many other contracts look as bargains. Not let's hope for the Wild to have inked a regular 30+ goals/80+ pts scorer and a leader staying away from injuries.

[TonyOday]

I will never be a fan of KK. I'm done with him. Fiala gets screwed with and KK holds the franchise hostage and Wild Fans want to blow KK for it. 

[flyercanuck]

Wow...$9 million a year for 5 years after a 55 game NHL career. Nice work if you can get it.

[Math]

Every team in the NHL has the moral responsibility and duty to have one or two albatross contracts* to be stuck with. With the Parisé/Suter buyouts, the Wild needed to assess and correct that situation.

 

* This label is subject to approval and confirmed once Kaprizov signs a long-term extension or if he's ahead of four sophomore seasons. 

[Confrontational]

I dunno...  With all the crap he did - and then to see the video above of him smiling - just something makes me now view him as a complete pain in the a$$. I'd rather have three Fiala's than one Kirill (assuming Fiala would have signed for lower $ for longer term)...

 

Essentially next year is the year to do it then - because after that things get very dicey with the dead money for #9 & #20...  And I think if we thought the past several years were a clusterfvck with Kirill - I have a feeling we've seen nothing yet when we have to start dealing with him in years 3 thru 5 of his contract and all the chaos that will come with it...

 

Although he got his boatload of money - I think there's a lot of people like me who now have some distain for the guy...  

Edited September 22, 2021 by Confrontational

[Alexandron]

3 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

Wow...$9 million a year for 5 years after a 55 game NHL career. Nice work if you can get it.

He also was the best KHL forward in previous 2 seasons in a row who was able to reach Gagarin Cup finals twice and to win it once.

[radoran]

The apples to apples comparison of a 24yo Russian recently winning the ROY would be Artemi Panarin.

 

Panarin signed a 2Y/$12M deal with Chicago, got dealt, and is making $11.6M per year in the three years that Kaprizov is signed at $9M.

 

Chicago got three years of Brandon Saad, a season of Anton Forsberg, and Calvin De Haan and Aleksi Saaralea.

 

Saad's not bad, but his 20/50 isn't the 30/70 of a Kaprizov/Panarin and he was making $6M anyway.

 

As with any contract, how the player produces over the course of it will determine whether or not it was a "bad deal." If y'all get an annual 70-80 point player over the course of the deal, that's the price of doing business inthe NHL.

 

[lynxrattle]

The NMC makes this a potential disaster, for the reasons C&A stated in the article

[Alexandron]

7 hours ago, Math said:

Well, $9M AAV it is. Which makes many other contracts look as bargains. Not let's hope for the Wild to have inked a regular 30+ goals/80+ pts scorer and a leader staying away from injuries.

I agree, let's hope he will be able to place 30+ goals/ 80+ points during the regular season and will stay away from injuries during that time. That's all we need out of him at least till 2026 season, and then we will talk again about his new contract.

Optimism is always a better helper than pessimism.

I am glad also that Bill Guerin was able to meet Kirill Kaprizov at the airport and was happy too.

 

[Alexandron]

[Alexandron]

[Brewin Flames]

AAV 9 mil is just insane, no matter what....

 

However, the blow is softened if he produces at a high level.

 

If he's not a 30-40 goal, 80 point man, this contract sucks even more.

[Alexandron]

23 minutes ago, Brewin Flames said:

AAV 9 mil is just insane, no matter what....

 

However, the blow is softened if he produces at a high level.

 

If he's not a 30-40 goal, 80 point man, this contract sucks even more.

I think he will. I just do not believe that he will not come close to that number. Probably, by the huge help of his friend Zuccarello and other players of this team.

[ClusterChuck]

Kaprizov and his agent probably added the NTC so it felt like they won the negotiations.
Done is done, Now the only way other teams can't just focus on shutting him down is if Rossi and Boldy and others play up to expectations.
Would be great to have some real chemistry with whatever linemates he ends with.

Oh, And C&A..."But the mustard-colored breezers and gloves are garish"
Thank You !! ....I was beginning to think I was the only one who felt that way. 
 

[Mad Dog]

Not that it's even on the horizon, but can he waive the NMC if there is an amicable situation for both him and the Wild, at some point down the road?

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

59 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

Not that it's even on the horizon, but can he waive the NMC if there is an amicable situation for both him and the Wild, at some point down the road?

 

If you mean the player, I don't see why not.
It's like any other NMC or NTC in a contract.... gives player control, but, if the player wanted out, he could waive it, giving control back to the team, allowing the GM to make a move.

But, now that this contract nonsense is settled for now, we will really see what the Minnesota Wild have in both Kaprizov and in their young players.
Given the cap crunch Minnesota will find themselves in the next 4 seasons or so, players can't expect much help in the way of prime additions, thus who they have on the roster, in Iowa, or who they recently drafted will be IT for the forseeable.

If Minnesota drafted well, have real pros (if still green) within their ranks, then they will surprise teams and could do well during the "dark cap ages" than people think.

However, if the Wild drafted poorly or players take too long to develop into NHL quality players (if at all!), then they will find themselves struggling to put together wins, things can get ugly and un-fun for players REAL quick, and then we will see how a player like Kaprizov deals with that adversity during that time:
---Is he going to attempt to put the team on his back and play like the player Minnesota paid for?
---Or will he whine and complain that the Wild "need more help" (ironic since he eats a huge chunk of the cap, no?) and be a drama issue instead of a solution?

We will see soon enough.

 

Edited September 23, 2021 by TropicalFruitGirl26

[Math]

18 hours ago, radoran said:

As with any contract, how the player produces over the course of it will determine whether or not it was a "bad deal." If y'all get an annual 70-80 point player over the course of the deal, that's the price of doing business inthe NHL

 

Thinking twice about this, I think it does make perfect sense. I just heard a couple of former NHLers and coaches who basically said "yeah, a shitload amount of money but that's the new NHL standards". Every other team would've done the same.

 

And as confirmed by Russo and the Athletic, the 5-yr/$45M was the offer on the table from day one. Negotiations lasted long probably because of the NTC are maybe also the money distribution (real salary) over the years as young players want to get most of the cash early in the contract while GMs are likely to distribute it more or les evenly.

 

Finally @Alexandron made a good point about his career: he was successful in the KHL before joining the Wild. Kaprizov was not a "real" rookie in a sense he was an unexperienced 18-year old coming straight from the juniors. That's why there was less risk to go for that kind of deal and have the expected return for this in terms of production. And like always, only time will tell if this was a good deal or not.