OccamsRazor Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Flyers have placed Ryan Johansen on waivers!!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 Ryan and Torts bumped heads in Columbus so it's like Kevin Hayes all over again oil and water mixing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 WTF now they say the 1st is conditional??? Why??? Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers TRADE ALERT: We have acquired a conditional first-round selection in the 2025 NHL Draft and center Ryan Johansen from Colorado in exchange for defenseman Sean Walker and a fifth-round selection in the 2026 NHL Draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Conditional?? It's not like the Avs would go for a top ten protection. No chance in hell they would drop off so much within a year. So wonder what the condition is? Walker resigning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, ctid said: Conditional?? It's not like the Avs would go for a top ten protection. No chance in hell they would drop off so much within a year. So wonder what the condition is? Walker resigning? It's top 10 protected. That's all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, ctid said: Conditional?? It's not like the Avs would go for a top ten protection. No chance in hell they would drop off so much within a year. So wonder what the condition is? Walker resigning? Exactly shouldn't have had to given up a 5th too. Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Exactly shouldn't have had to given up a 5th too. Whatever. I just said it in the other thread....if we're taking Johansen back why are we throwing in a 5th? Cause that's what Flyer GMs do? Throw away draft picks? I know it's only a 5th, but the more picks you have the better chance of catching lightning in a bottle. It's why we don't...cause we always throw in draft picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, flyercanuck said: I know it's only a 5th, but the more picks you have the better chance of catching lightning in a bottle. what's the quote about everything that comes after the but? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) So, Walker is out. Shot Blocker Specialist is on IR--probably negating a trade. So.....will a forward move? If I understand correctly, Nashville retained half his AAV in the trade to Colorado. So, the hit will not too bad. One account says he's a buyout candidate. Here's the capgeek estimate. How this works with salary retention is beyond me: https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/ryan-johansen Edited March 6 by Howie58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: I just said it in the other thread....if we're taking Johansen back why are we throwing in a 5th? Cause that's what Flyer GMs do? Throw away draft picks? I know it's only a 5th, but the more picks you have the better chance of catching lightning in a bottle. It's why we don't...cause we always throw in draft picks. Yep Noah Cates and Oskar Lindblom were 5th round picks off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On read is that if he wanted a first rounder, it was next year and he had to give it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 19 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: what's the quote about everything that comes after the but? Flyer GMs don't think draft picks after the 1st mean anything? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said: Flyers have placed Ryan Johansen on waivers!!! shortest book written…. ”My life as a Philadelphia Flyer….” By Ryan Johansen….. Dude wasn’t even assigned a parking spot or locker…… LOL 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Shortest book….. ”The great Ryan Johansen tribute video…” by the Philadelphia Flyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, pilldoc said: Shortest book….. ”The great Ryan Johansen tribute video…” by the Philadelphia Flyers Flyers have him listed on the roster #12 jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post flyercanuck Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Flyers have him listed on the roster #12 jersey Should have given him #13 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Should have given him #13 He wanted to wear his BC # Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I agree you don't waste assets. On the other hand, the last time I looked, round 5-7 picks have less than 40 percent chance of playing 100 or more games in the NHL. It is about 70 percent for first and about 60 for second. The 5-7 rounds are an undifferentiated blob. Are we blowing something by giving up a 5th. Yes. But it is relatively rare for this level pick to pan out long-term. I suspect they pried it it out of us. Getting a first for someone you really weren't expecting much of is OK. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 With Johansen going to Lehigh Valley, that should hopefully get Tuomaala back on track and scoring again. However, something tells me Puckhead won't think about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I just saw a piece on the Hockey News about this trade. The author contended that the Flyers might flip him and absorb another 50% of his salary. So, someone might get a 25 point forward for 2 million. WTF. Waiving him within minutes is interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I was going to say this was a great trade until I saw that Johansen has one more year. So it's a good trade instead - not sure how much cap is going to matter next year (i.e. how competitive will they be). The bottom line is that the Flyers leveraged their assets (UFA and cap space) for a much better future asset. Next year they may be able to deal Johansen for something at the deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 The Flyers now have some ammo "if" they wanted to trade up in this years draft ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I just got to the part where they resigned Seeler. That is incredibly dumb. Paying a guy $2.7M at that age because he's too unskilled to do anything other than not get out of the way of the puck is not a winning move. My guess is he loses a step at 32 and is basically unplayable from that point on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 26 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said: I just got to the part where they resigned Seeler. That is incredibly dumb. Paying a guy $2.7M at that age because he's too unskilled to do anything other than not get out of the way of the puck is not a winning move. My guess is he loses a step at 32 and is basically unplayable from that point on. Those managment guys ****** love that guy. He wants to be a Flyer. I think we underestimate how much that means to this group of managers. I think the deal is for too long, it's not the worst thing to happen- but it's not the best either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 56 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: He wants to be a Flyer. And it took a four year deal Twice as long as any non-entry level deal he ever had At almost four times what he was making With a NTC How much did he WANT to be here? I mean, make me an offer... Edited March 7 by radoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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