sekkes85 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So I built a new computer about 6 months ago, it was working fine. The fan on the CPU was really loud and I wanted to upgrade my graphics card as the other was from my old computer.I installed the new fan and the new card, and am no longer getting any video input to my monitor. I have determined it's not a power issue but my new card's fan will not even turn on. I kept it on for about 10 minutes and then turned it off. The card did get warmer so something is going on there. I put the old card back in to see if it was DoA and the old card will no longer work either. I've been working on possible solutions for about 4 hours now and am fed up with the damn thing.Any ideas out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Hm... all I can think of is maybe your graphic card is faulty or your monitor is fried. Loose cables? No idea... sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Are you using the same cable for input to your monitor? Some monitors you have to select the cable source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So I built a new computer about 6 months ago, it was working fine. The fan on the CPU was really loud and I wanted to upgrade my graphics card as the other was from my old computer.I installed the new fan and the new card, and am no longer getting any video input to my monitor. I have determined it's not a power issue but my new card's fan will not even turn on. I kept it on for about 10 minutes and then turned it off. The card did get warmer so something is going on there. I put the old card back in to see if it was DoA and the old card will no longer work either. I've been working on possible solutions for about 4 hours now and am fed up with the damn thing.Any ideas out there?1) When you boot up are you able to see bios at all??2) Have you tested the new card where you purchased it (or on another machine)?3) What kind of video card is it and what kind of mother board are you using? What kind of monitor are you using? 4) Some monitors have a corrupt EDID (external display identification device from some nVidia cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Monet Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I'll take another dry hop please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Shake it like an Etch-a-Sketch. Works like a charm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 @sekkes85PCI? AGP? PCI Express? Putting it in the top slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) any luck yet?You say you "determined it isn't a power issue" - how did you do that? Edited February 1, 2013 by canoli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekkes85 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Using the same cables the same PCI Express slot (even tried a different slot to see if that one somehow went faulty). I determined it's not a power issue because my old card requires more juice and has a light to indicate if it is getting enough power, all systems were a go. I purchased the card on newegg.com, I'm hopefully going to my buddies tomorrow to brew some beer and will try swapping it on his machine to make sure it's not DoA.Here is my system;Motherboard: Gigabye GA-990FXA-UD3 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=667675CPU: AMD FX-8150 3.6ghz (which apparently I bought the warranty for? woohoo!) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103960CPU fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214024Memory: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6688692Graphics: HIS IceQ Radeon 7850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405 - Old card was a GeForce GTX280PSU: Coolermaster 750WMonitor: Samsung Syncmaster T220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I purchased the card on newegg.com, I'm hopefully going to my buddies tomorrow to brew some beer and will try swapping it on his machine to make sure it's not DoA.A couple of questions:1) Did you uninstall all the old drivers from your old graphics card?2) Did you look at your bios to make sure that it will detect the video card (sounds silly- but you never know).Also, 750w for your PSU- while strong enough, is a bit unnecessary (650W would have more than done the job). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 OK, this looks like the right thread to post this problem, although I'm about to give away just how computer stupid I really am. I can't get the spell check to work on this site, it's not my Mozzilla firefox, cause it works on other sites.....but not on this one. For the sake of people that are exposed to my posts, somebody help....LOL! Right now, I take words I don't know how to spell correctly (or think they may be wrong etc) and type them out in the google box up top, then get the correct spelling and change my post, this method sucks, esp when you spell as brutally as I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 @jammer2There appears to be an issue with firefox and spell check. It didn't work for me either. I will put it on Digity's list .Spell check works fine with Chrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 @hf101 Ahhh, thanks 101, that clears things up, but the funny thing is, it *did* work at one point (with firefox), but it comes and goes, and I don't know what I'm doing to delete it.....lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 @jammer2I doubt you did anything. There are some items that need addressing since the site upgrade a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 @hf101 It's usually my fault, but I may give myself a break on this one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekkes85 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I did not delete the drivers before I switched (saw I should have done that after the fact). Would that completely crap out the new card though? Also when putting the old back in it still wasn't working. I tried taking the battery thing out of my motherboard to reset my bios to see if that would help too but also nothing. I also tried to hook my tv directly into the computer using an HDMI cable instead of the other cable I was using to rule out the cable. (That sucked testing, stupid heavy tv)I'm out of ideas and have pretty much come to the conclusion that something is fried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I did not delete the drivers before I switched (saw I should have done that after the fact). Would that completely crap out the new card though? Also when putting the old back in it still wasn't working. I tried taking the battery thing out of my motherboard to reset my bios to see if that would help too but also nothing. I also tried to hook my tv directly into the computer using an HDMI cable instead of the other cable I was using to rule out the cable. (That sucked testing, stupid heavy tv)I'm out of ideas and have pretty much come to the conclusion that something is fried.The old drivers can prevent the new drivers from loading, especially with switching manufacturers. The card should still POST though so you should see the computer start up on screen. If you're not getting that, it's either a fried card or you're identifying the wrong input source for the monitor. I've run into similar monitor issues. You're saying you're using the same input source so with no post I'd assume your video card is bad. My concern is the old one not working either, which could mean you damaged the main board. The old card should show POST information as well, and that it's not is worrisome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Greetings:While $49 isn't cheap, I will say that the diagnostics at my neighborhood Office Depot are cool...and done in about a minute. If nothing else, they will tell you if it is hardware or software, that isn't a bad place to start. I suspect that if you built the machine, warranty is not an issue, so the next question is who repairs it; you won't be shipping back somewhere. Good luck!Howie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedZep Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 @sekke85This may be a foolish question, but did you plug power to the HD7850? Not just through the slot, but it requires a separate power source as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekkes85 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yea I plugged it in. The card worked at my buddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 You tried switching the display ports I'm sure...the fact that your 280 won't POST is troubling...esp since you said you didn't uninstall the old drivers.In my experience trouble like this is almost always PSU-related. If a new part prevents POST and replacing it with the old part doesn't solve it...and you've ruled out any software issues (drivers) then it's a power issue almost certainly. (Barring any obvious connection problems - bad cable, loose 24-pin power connection, etc.)I don't remember an "idiot" light on the 280...but even if you're getting that (it's lighting up) I wouldn't trust it - it doesn't necessarily mean the card is getting "enough power." At least I doubt it, though like I say I don't remember my 280 having a light like that.If you have a multimeter and feel like checking the PSU that's where I would start. Better yet if you have another PSU laying around try that.In any case, same PSU or a different one, here's how I'd proceed.First disconnect everything you don't need for POST - all peripherals, printers, scanners, HDDs, optical drives, etc. You're not trying to boot into Windows so disconnect everything but your GPU.Reset the BIOS back to "Optimized Defaults" or whatever Gigabyte calls it. See if it'll POST with the old card.sounds like you'll have your answer tomorrow about the new card - that should help diagnose the trouble if you can rule out a bad GPU.sorry I can't be more helpful...hopefully it turns out something stupid was going on - the 24-pin cable was just a wee bit loose...your PCIe cable wasn't making good contact on the GPU(s)... but I'd suspect that PSU once all that stuff is ruled out. PSUs are notorious for crapping out at the worst possible times...times like you're going thru right now.Good luck with it - let us know how it goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) damn - so okay, the new card works...any chance you can borrow his PSU for a day? Even if it's a 350W no-name...you won't need much juice to see whether your mainboard is fried.did you take the usual precautions about grounding yourself before you started tinkering inside your case? I assume you did since you built the system... and you pulled the power plug before you swapped cards right? And after pulling the plug you gave it a few minutes for the voltage to dissipate before you pulled your 280?All I can think of - before we have to think of the unthinkable (!) - is this: Go over your connections again - all of them. Pull them one by one then reseat them. Maybe there was a loose one in there somewhere...hopefully... Edited February 2, 2013 by canoli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The fan on the CPU was really loud and I wanted to upgrade my graphics card as the other was from my old computer.I installed the new fan and the new card, and am no longer getting any video input to my monitor.wait a minute... sorry I didn't read this better the first time. So you replaced your CPU fan as well? You mean the whole cooler?If that's the case then it's time to pull that apart again, make sure your CPU is seated correctly, etc.A faulty HSF installation explains everything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekkes85 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I'm gonna head home after were done brewing this tasty treat and try resetting the cpu and hook up all my old gear to rule out the mother oard if it works. (Really hope I don't have to buy a new one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yea I plugged it in. The card worked at my buddiesIf it worked at your buddies follow @canoli 's guide. If you find nothing loose let us know. There are a few more things that can cause a post failure, and we can tackle those after you try his points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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