murraycraven Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I would be shocked if the Flyers traded Hartnell honestly... really shocked. It better not be for J Bo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent05 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 @murraycraven If they get Clowe, I can see Harts being moved. We would have 3 gritty forwards in Simmonds, Harts and Clowe. 1 too many don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hartnell is getting packaged for a multi-player deal involving defensemen. That is one of the only assets the Flyers have left right now. Stay tuned.Not being an ass here...but where does Hartnell agree to be traded too? I don't have a guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hartnell to flyers west to hook up with Richie and Carts, maybe part of a deal bringing bernier here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hartnell can't be included in any J-No deal. He wouldn't agree to waive to move to calgary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The Flyers won't be making a move to bring a goalieHartnell being moved would at least make sense for Clowe, but the pricetag being rumored is way too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKerrFan12 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Isn't Hartnell from Western Canada? Why wouldn't he want to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKerrFan12 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I still fail to see what the fascination is with Clowe and Holmgren. Am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 @Mad Dog Maybe it's not this year (the first rounder), it'll be next year...when we suck much worse and miss out on the first overall....WOW. Philly is holding the draft next year. No way does Snider do that without a first. Any other year, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 am I on glue (again)? Who in their right mind would give up a top 5 pick for Ryane Clowe?And trading Couturier for him is beyond stupid, it would be criminally insane.Now if Wilson wants Couturier + ? for Burns...we can talk. At least Burns addresses what the Flyers actually need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyS Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hartnell to flyers west to hook up with Richie and Carts, maybe part of a deal bringing bernier here?I would be totally OK with that.If #19 lands us a franchise goalie, do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearOnIce Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not being an ass here...but where does Hartnell agree to be traded too? I don't have a guess...No problem. I would say any team that he wants to go to that he thinks he can win a Cup. Maybe Boston, Montreal, even Minnesota in the West.. If I am Holmgren I am looking for a contender that will pay the Flyers back in an under 30 age defenceman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 No problem. I would say any team that he wants to go to that he thinks he can win a Cup. Maybe Boston, Montreal, even Minnesota in the West.. If I am Holmgren I am looking for a contender that will pay the Flyers back in an under 30 age defenceman...The real questions are: who are the contenders who have such assets (and are willing to deal them)?And, who is making that commitment to a player who is signed through 2019? (this is not a "rental")Hartnell would immediately be the fourth highest-paid player on the Habs next season and I'm not entirely sold on the concept that any of the three have what you describe or are willing to part with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The real questions are: who are the contenders who have such assets (and are willing to deal them)?And, who is making that commitment to a player who is signed through 2019? (this is not a "rental")Funny you should ask... CBJ are apparently offering one of their three (yes three) first rounders in this year's draft for... a scoring winger who is signed long term. (According to TSN).Or maybe St Louis, if you believe Claude Giroux's twitter account:@Hartsy19 good luck in St Louis. You’re a great teammate and friend. Just make sure you keep your head up next year.— Claude Giroux (@28CGiroux) April 1, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Funny you should ask... CBJ are apparently offering one of their three (yes three) first rounders in this year's draft for... a scoring winger who is signed long term. (According to TSN).Or maybe St Louis, if you believe Claude Giroux's twitter account:https://twitter.com/...828012747497472Well, if one sees Les Vestes Bleu as "contenders" this season... "One" in this case being "Scott Hartnell."And I still see either Briere or Pronger or both being perfect fits for Les Bleus at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearOnIce Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The real questions are: who are the contenders who have such assets (and are willing to deal them)?And, who is making that commitment to a player who is signed through 2019? (this is not a "rental")Hartnell would immediately be the fourth highest-paid player on the Habs next season and I'm not entirely sold on the concept that any of the three have what you describe or are willing to part with it.Holmgren just needs to find a team that is desperate enough. How about Pittsburgh? Boy, they would love Hartnell there, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Holmgren just needs to find a team that is desperate enough. How about Pittsburgh? Boy, they would love Hartnell there, eh?Nooooooooo!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 am I on glue (again)? Who in their right mind would give up a top 5 pick for Ryane Clowe?And trading Couturier for him is beyond stupid, it would be criminally insane.Now if Wilson wants Couturier + ? for Burns...we can talk. At least Burns addresses what the Flyers actually need.Clowe is this year's version of Dan CarcilloThe fans will love him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 It's unbelievable that we have some pieces other teams might want to add at the deadline (Briere, Meszaros), but they are injured and can't be traded. That really really bothers me even though it's not in anyone's control.Anyway, the earlier quote from Holmgren about adding "leadership" and someone who can "fight through adversity" annoys the heck out of me. There's such a thing as too many cooks in the kitchen. You gave Giroux the C, so let him develop into that role instead of once again forcing upon the leadership some 30+ year old has-been who may or may not disrupt what this core is building.Man oh man, these guys just have absolutely no patience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Rumor has it NYR will get Clowe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 phew...dodged that bullet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 thank goodness. And Jagr is gone to Boston so we can breathe a sigh of relief on that dumb idea too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Rumor has it NYR will get Clowe.Thank God it wasn't us. I'm sure his zero goals in 28 games this year will really jump start the Rangers offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thank God it wasn't us. I'm sure his zero goals in 28 games this year will really jump start the Rangers offense.They lost a lot of toughness this year. Maybe they think this is the cure to their struggles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 They lost a lot of toughness this year. Maybe they think this is the cure to their struggles?Worried that could be the case, but glad Philly doesn't have him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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