vis Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 hours ago, pilldoc said: Here is the list of the top 10 picks in the 2017 Draft..... Pettersson and Heiskanen are the only ones I would have drafted at #2. In all fairness to Patrick he was recovering from an injury. Because of that IMHO he should have been sent back to his junior club. However this fan base would have gone apeshit if that occurred because of all the fanfare of him being the #2 overall pick. How great would Pettersson be in O&B right now. Like they say....hind-site is always 20/20 Yeah, that’s all fair. I’m not sure at the time would have put those guys ahead of Patrick. I think the consensus was pretty much that it was a two player draft and somewhat of a coin flip between Patrick and Hischier. Point is, I don’t think they could be criticized for taking him. I do wonder if the messed with his progress. Not just because maybe he would have benefitted from junior, but I wonder if they just haven’t spent enough time or been done things effectively to get him to improve his game. Still not convinced it’s on the player. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: stewardship of the assets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Looks like Fletcher is up to his old tricks again. My commiserations, gentlemen... 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, IllaZilla said: Looks like Fletcher is up to his old tricks again. My commiserations, gentlemen... Fletch and Holmgren get along well... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 hours ago, pilldoc said: Here is the list of the top 10 picks in the 2017 Draft..... Pettersson and Heiskanen are the only ones I would have drafted at #2. In all fairness to Patrick he was recovering from an injury. Because of that IMHO he should have been sent back to his junior club. However this fan base would have gone apeshit if that occurred because of all the fanfare of him being the #2 overall pick. How great would Pettersson be in O&B right now. Like they say....hind-site is always 20/20 Did you see Makar's debut in the playoffs? Kid is electric. I'd trade Patrick for Makar any day of the week...and I do think Patrick has untapped potential ....but we will never see Patrick and electric in the same sentence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, hf101 said: Fletch and Holmgren get along well... I take it Holmgren had enough of the roster building and wants to “win now”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Clarke2Leach said: Hayes wingers in Winnipeg were at any one time a combination of Laine, Ehlers, Wheeler and Conner and he produced himself out of the 2nd line. Sure and those guys have struggled this year and even into the playoffs to score. Not sure i blame that on Hayes. And he only played in 20 games during the season which didn't see but 13 points in 20 games doesn't sound to shabby to me. And in the playoffs he was between Perrault and Rolosovic so not exactly a lot to work with. Rolosovic might be one day.. Point being let's wait and see what he does in Philly we have 7 years to talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, IllaZilla said: I take it Holmgren had enough of the roster building and wants to “win now”? Indeed, the pressure is also mainly from Dave Scott, Comcast CEO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, mojo1917 said: 7x7 with a modified NMC is just too much for a 54 pt player that one time. Keeping money on Gudas' salary ? Throwing in a 3rd on the Braun deal ? Yes it seems like they gave him the demands and didn't care how he got it done...of the issues above the NMC is the one that bugs me the most. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, hf101 said: Indeed, the pressure is also mainly from Dave Scott, Comcast CEO. It’s like deja vu all over again...Leipold wanted the Playoffs and a Winter Classic, and next thing we know Fletcher signs Parise and Suter to identical $98M/13 year ($7.5M per season contract) with full NMC’s... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, jammer2 said: Did you see Makar's debut in the playoffs? Kid is electric. I'd trade Patrick for Makar any day of the week...and I do think Patrick has untapped potential ....but we will never see Patrick and electric in the same sentence. Yes, but will he score 60 goals? Good to see you back! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, AJgoal said: Confirmed. https://twitter.com/jasonmyrt/status/1141431417437675521 @jasonmyrt: Contract also has a full no-move clause the first 3 years, and a 12 team limited no-trade clause for final 4 years of the deal. https://t.co/QgHWNBAXcq Aaaaannnnnnd it's official....Fletcher is a total f****** asshole! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 What a ****** time to be alive! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I live in NY, so I see a lot of Rangers games. Hayes is a less talented Stepan: another in a long line of young Ranger forwards who were supposed be stars and ended up being middle six guys at best. A high end grinder with a little skill, but not a dynamic game changer in any way, shape, or form. Hayes is worth $5M-$5.5 at best. Given the market, $6M would have been acceptable. At $7M+, Flyers fans will want this guy off the team in under three years. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewin Flames Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 After season #1... Not for that Price, and over paid for Braun as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 With the NMC, Hayes has to be protected in the Seattle draft, so look forward to losing one of Lindblom, Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost, Konecny, or Morin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Ewing Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Podein25 said: What a ****** time to be alive! I think you mean to say "What a time to be a middle-six NHL player!" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, JR Ewing said: I think you mean to say "What a time to be a middle-six NHL player!" Yes, I mean exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 My prediction is Hayes scores 60 points this year, then never sniffs 55 points again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said: With the NMC, Hayes has to be protected in the Seattle draft, so look forward to losing one of Lindblom, Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost, Konecny, or Morin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said: With the NMC, Hayes has to be protected in the Seattle draft, so look forward to losing one of Lindblom, Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost, Konecny, or Morin. Yeah, not to happy with the Flyers current strategy. to the forums. We are a rather friendly crew here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, hf101 said: Yeah, not to happy with the Flyers current strategy. to the forums. We are a rather friendly crew here. Except for me. I hate everyone here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
926 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 22 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Well it's coming together.... 28 Claude Giroux - 14 Sean Couturier- 11 Travis Konecny25 James van Riemsdyk - 13 Kevin Hayes - 93 Jake Voracek23 Oskar Lindblom - 19 Nolan Patrick - ???????????????12 Michael Raffl - 21 Scott Laughton - 38 Ryan Hartman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So we traded Schenn to sign more expensive Schenn ? I thought we already had the homegrown pivots, then Hayes money for Simmonds...or is Hayes, Frost and Farabee a better future? Don't know how lesser TOI and forward depth will help Nolan's game, either. Either before or after we look like a slow team. JvR Giroux V - Big $ Schenn Coots Simmonds - Not 2 Shabby Lindb Nolan Konec - Young Turks Rat Rafterman Raffl - Schraaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, hf101 said: We are a rather friendly crew here. REPORTED! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Except for me. I hate everyone here. That's why we like you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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