flyercanuck Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 58 minutes ago, Math said: Holy smoke, back to the 1980s where Russians, Czechs and other players from the wrong side of the iron curtain had to defect and seek asylum in the west at a high risk level. It's a matter of emergency that these prospects manage to get the f*** outta there as soon as possible, for their own safety. Somebody just needs to "literally" give Putin some of his own medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Certainly we'll see soon about this issue. Who'da predicted this? This one wasn't even hard. People who don't learn history... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, ruxpin said: Who'da predicted this? This one wasn't even hard. People who don't learn history... Going to have to sneak MM across the border at some point... ..feels like now could set off WW3... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I don't fault Briere and Company for swinging for the fences. But even they must have realized that politics will trump (no pun) IIHF rules, which is what we saw with Fedotov. The Russians are responding to our economic sanctions by withholding their talent. I agree with Rux--this should be no surprise. I wonder how many Russian or allies we will draft in the future? Belarus is pseudo-independent of Moscow. I bet they hold Kolosov from coming over. I gave a MM a 50% chance of wearing our uniform down the road. Now I am at .33. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Should've taken Leonard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I believe he will be coming over sooner than later mostly i can tell he wants to come over he wants out and into the limelight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: I believe he will be coming over sooner than later mostly i can tell he wants to come over he wants out and into the limelight. Hope so. But No one really knows how much influence Michkov has in this situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 So this an agent, right? On Russian TV saying...must keep Russian players in Russia longer. There hasn't been an edict from the dictator, no communication with the IHF, nothing official. An interview from Shumi Babev or whoever....likely equal to Ryan Ballard in Canada, a player agent... We'll see what happens. Just cause a guy went on state TV and parroted some propaganda, I'm not getting my knickers in a twist over this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: So this an agent, right? On Russian TV saying...must keep Russian players in Russia longer. There hasn't been an edict from the dictator, no communication with the IHF, nothing official. An interview from Shumi Babev or whoever....likely equal to Ryan Ballard in Canada, a player agent... We'll see what happens. Just cause a guy went on state TV and parroted some propaganda, I'm not getting my knickers in a twist over this. Regardless i think Danny Jones has a plan. We'll just have to wait to see it unfold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 At what point does he cease to be Flyers "property?" If I understand correctly, at age 24, draft rights expire without a contract: https://internationalhockey.net/nhl-draft-rules-what-happens-if-a-player-doesnt-sign/ MM turned 19 on December 9th. If this agent's assertion is anywhere close to the truth, or Putin doesn't relent, or whatever, the debate becomes moot in 2028. Fans and management might be well served if they think of MM as "icing on the cake" we might acquire, but plan otherwise. If I were Flyers management, there wouldn't be any picks from the Russian Federation or Belarus, and even trading for those players may be high risk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Howie58 said: At what point does he cease to be Flyers "property?" If I understand correctly, at age 24, draft rights expire without a contract: Pretty sure the least the league will do is toll that deadline based on the situation. We don't know until it happens of course but that seems likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 18 hours ago, mojo1917 said: We'll see what happens. Just cause a guy went on state TV and parroted some propaganda, I'm not getting my knickers in a twist over this. I understand the skepticism but it's either true or it isn't. If it isn't you have to wonder why he would just make it up. How does that help him or his player(s)? But I agree completely with the shrug/who cares spirit of your post. This doesn't change a thing. Everyone knew it was a risk taking Michkov. This guy spouting off on Russian TV doesn't qualify even as a bump in the road. I love the attitude the Flyers showed taking Michkov. It was a ballsy, risky pick and that's part of what it takes to build a champion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 They'll work out a deal. The NHL would be foolish to not try to get the best players on the world to come over and Russia would be foolish to not accept American money and also knowing that these are going to come back home with millions of American dollars in their pockets. This is 100% about money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: They'll work out a deal. The NHL would be foolish to not try to get the best players on the world to come over and Russia would be foolish to not accept American money and also knowing that these are going to come back home with millions of American dollars in their pockets. This is 100% about money. If it's true, I would say it's 100% about Putins giant ego trip. Putin doesn't need money, he may well be the richest man in the world. I'm not going to worry about it until it actually happens. And I have no problem, at all, about Philly taking Michkov. We NEED players like him. Not more so so talents. When one is available, you jump all over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Well at least the asset is looking good still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Putin is still pouting about the Rd Army beat down in !975. Briere should send Van Impe and Dupont to Moscow and cross check the little puke into the Baltic. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 4:47 PM, flyercanuck said: Somebody just needs to "literally" give Putin some of his own medicine! Are there any kind of International tournaments coming up next season where Michkov will be in Europe and we can smuggle him back to Philly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, RonJeremy said: Are there any kind of International tournaments coming up next season where Michkov will be in Europe and we can smuggle him back to Philly? Russia is currently banned from pretty much everything sports-wise. Unless it's with Belarus, North Korea or China, which pretty much says it all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, flyercanuck said: Russia is currently banned from pretty much everything sports-wise. Unless it's with Belarus, North Korea or China, which pretty much says it all. Maybe we can hire Rambo for a rescue mission. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, flyercanuck said: Russia is currently banned from pretty much everything sports-wise. Unless it's with Belarus, North Korea or China, which pretty much says it all. Boy the IIHF is really showing Russian hockey a thing or two. Conveniently blame hockey players who have no say in global politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 3:47 PM, Math said: Holy smoke, back to the 1980s where Russians, Czechs and other players from the wrong side of the iron curtain had to defect and seek asylum in the west at a high risk level. It's a matter of emergency that these prospects manage to get the f*** outta there as soon as possible, for their own safety. Its the prospect...but just as important, their immediate family. They will pay the price for th player fleeing. Either murder or jail...punishing or killing loved ones is a sick but effective deterrent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/28/2023 at 5:56 PM, RonJeremy said: Maybe we can hire Rambo for a rescue mission. Wonder what Jimmy Devallano's son is doing these days? Did Jimmy pass on the secret Russian smuggling secrets that freed Federov?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Pretty nice apple here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Wow yeah that was nice. Hard to teach the vision and skill it takes to make that pass, selling the goalie a shot. Good stuff! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 16 hours ago, jammer2 said: Wonder what Jimmy Devallano's son is doing these days? Did Jimmy pass on the secret Russian smuggling secrets that freed Federov?! We gotta do something, three years is more than long enough. Let's face it , things are gonna get worse with Russia, so smuggling him out may be the only option. They didnt honor Fedetovs deal with the Flyers , so we shouldn't honor theirs, if we can smuggle him and his family out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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