Richards Charged...

[radoran]

Aren't the Kings supposed to provide whatever help Richards needs? Somehow I don't think terminating his contract with zero compensation is going to help him.

 

I think it says something about that organisation.

He's already gotten $40M on that deal - he shouldn't be a helpless pauper.

The org is clearly pissed at him for dogging it and lying to them - Lombardi says Richards basically lied to his face. I can see them being pissed and lookjng for ways to not give him another $15M.

Both sides look bad here.

I think this situation defnitely says something about the org, but it says a lot more about Richards.

[canoli]

Rux you are one sick (and funny) mofo!

[Digityman]

Aren't the Kings supposed to provide whatever help Richards needs? Somehow I don't think terminating his contract with zero compensation is going to help him.

 

I think it says something about that organisation.

 

I'm not sure it's law but I heard on the radio here that if a employee of a company claims drug abuse/dependence then the company is required to send them to treatment and NOT fire them.  

[AJgoal]

This is why I wish they wouldn't leak bits and pieces. Tell us the story when the whole story is available. Not before.

 

"Richards was caught transporting some Oxycodone across the border. Not a lot, that shouldn't be this big an issue."

 

"Maybe it was a whole trunkful"

 

"Well, I heard he was selling underage sheep to this guy in Manitoba..."

 

The Kings may be well within the bounds of terminating his contract, or they may be overreaching. Until the whole story gets out, people are going to accuse Richards of who knows how many Very Bad Things, the Kings are going to be accused of cap circumvention and worse, and almost nobody is going to actually be right.

[Podein25]

This is why I wish they wouldn't leak bits and pieces. Tell us the story when the whole story is available. Not before.

"Richards was caught transporting some Oxycodone across the border. Not a lot, that shouldn't be this big an issue."

"Maybe it was a whole trunkful"

"Well, I heard he was selling underage sheep to this guy in Manitoba..."

The Kings may be well within the bounds of terminating his contract, or they may be overreaching. Until the whole story gets out, people are going to accuse Richards of who knows how many Very Bad Things, the Kings are going to be accused of cap circumvention and worse, and almost nobody is going to actually be right.

The Kings may be open to a lawsuit because they are engaging in what amounts to a smear campaign which could negatively affect Mike's ability to land a job in the NHL.

[King Knut]

Holy crap.

 

Seriously, if the guy is convicted on charges related to Oxy, I could totally see the Flyers and the Kings getting dragged into some serious legal crap.

 

Usually if you get into Oxy it's because someone with some sort of medical training gave it to you at some point.  If Richie laywers up with the right kind of lawyer (like any attorney in the greater Philly area for instance and I could see this getting ugly and much much bigger than Lombardi or Homer or Snider will want it to get.

 

Stoll with coke and E is a bit different, Richie on Oxy?  that could easily come back to haunt a few teams and a lot of players and maybe a trainer or two.

[Samifan]

Maybe Jim McCrossin will take the fall. That be one way to get rid of him.

[AndyS]

The Kings may be open to a lawsuit because they are engaging in what amounts to a smear campaign which could negatively affect Mike's ability to land a job in the NHL.

I thought the same thing, but that's probably why the Kings have been pretty much mum on the subject when it comes to the details.

 

If they actually have grounds for terminating his contract (we will see, I guess), then they really haven't said much about him other than the fact that they were terminating his deal.

 

I hope he gets his life straightened out.

[canoli]

Why do you think Oxy = extra trouble KT? Isn't it likely he was prescribed it at some point in his career...and probably recently?

[pilldoc]

@canoli

 

OxyContin (Oxycodone) is a sustained 12 hr release tablet of Oxycodone. Tablets come in a variey of strengths starting at low as 5 mg all the way to 120 mg of oxycodone per tablet.  The primary use of OxyContin is for severe "Chronic" pain.  This is not to be confused with OxyIR which is an oxycodone product which is an immediate release of oxycodone used for acute pain usually that type of pain associated with recent surgery.  Percocet is a combination drug of 2.5 - 10 mg of oxycodone in conjuction with 325 mg of acetaminophe (Tylenol). This oxycodone is also immediate use.

 

Over the past decade OxyContin has become widely abused by many individuals. It's the high content of oxycodone that makes OxyContin popular on the street. People who abuse the drug crush the tablet and swallow or snort it, or dilute it in water and inject it. This destroys the time-release mechanism so that the user gets the full effects of the narcotic. Users compare the high to the euphoria of heroin.

 

Because of this in 2013 the FDA and Purdue Pharmaceuticals changed the formulation of OxyContin to help combat this abuse. 

 

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm348252.htm

 

Oxycontin is a potent opioid drug.  When in high doses by an opiate niave person (someone who has not built oup a tolerance yet) the results can be devastating upwords to causing death by severe respiratory depression.  Mix this with alcohol (which also depresses the respiratory system) and you can get some deadly results.

 

Now I do not know the situation with Mike Richards.  If he has a legitamate prescription for them, then there should be no problems.  However, it does get dicey because OxyContin is label by the DEA as a Schedule II Narcotic (Controlled Substance) and I am not up to date on the amount allowed to cross over international borders.  Quantites of 60-120 tablets would be usual ans costumary.  Now suppose he had like a couple hundred tabets on hand, then that could be conisidered something more severe.  Again, I am only speculating here because I do not not know the full story.

 

So yeah in essence, this is nothing to laugh at.

[AJgoal]

Canada considers Oxycodone a Schedule I narcotic - Since the RCMP appears to be involved, how would the change to a schedule I change things?

[fan4ever]

@pilldoc

 

I must say, it's great to have our own personal drug expert on the board.  Thanks for all the insight.  And yes, it could be a very scary situation.

 

Thanks as always for your input!

[ruxpin]

Did anyone used to watch House? Wasn't that what he was hooked on?

[pilldoc]

@fan4ever

 

you are welcome.....Its the part of my job I truly enjoy.

[ruxpin]

@pilldoc

Was I close to accurate? Can an overdose of Viagra, in reality, cause a 4 hour Voynov?

[canoli]

pretty sure it was rush limbaugh's drug of choice - prob still is.

[JR Ewing]

Did anyone used to watch House? Wasn't that what he was hooked on?

 

Vicodin, according to my wife.

[ruxpin]

Vicodin, according to my wife.

Oh yeah. She's right!

[pilldoc]

@AJgoal

 

I don't know all of the Canadian Laws concerning Controlled Subtances.  In the United States there are 5 Classes of Controlled Substances:

Class I = Cocaine powder / Marijuana (except in certain states) / Heroin / other illegal drugs
Class II = Morphine / Fentanyl / Ocycodone / Hydrocondone (recently moved to Class II from Class III) / amphetamines / ritalin / Adderall

Class III = Tylenol with Codeine / Anabalic Steroids

Class IV = Benzo's like Ativan / Valium / Xanax

Class V = Exempt narcotics = Phenergan with Codeine (cough medicine)

 

In Canada Oxycodone = Class I similiar to US Class II

 

I searched Canada's version of the DEA Act  here:

 

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-38.8/

 

 

I found this "if" he had them illegally.....

 

Possession of substance

• 4. (1) Except as authorized under the regulations, no person shall possess a substance included in Schedule I, II or III.

• Marginal note:Obtaining substance

  (2) No person shall seek or obtain

  • (a) a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV, or

  • (b) an authorization to obtain a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV

  from a practitioner, unless the person discloses to the practitioner particulars relating to the acquisition by the person of every substance in those Schedules, and of every authorization to obtain such substances, from any other practitioner within the preceding thirty days.

• Marginal note:Punishment

  (3) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) where the subject-matter of the offence is a substance included in Schedule I

  • (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding seven years; or

  • (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable

    • (i) for a first offence, to a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both, and

    • (ii) for a subsequent offence, to a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or to both.

    •  

• If he was deemed a trafficker then:

•  

•  

• Trafficking in substance

• 5. (1) No person shall traffic in a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV or in any substance represented or held out by that person to be such a substance.

• Marginal note:Possession for purpose of trafficking

  (2) No person shall, for the purpose of trafficking, possess a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV.

• Marginal note:Punishment

  (3) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2)

  • (a) subject to paragraph (a.1), if the subject matter of the offence is a substance included in Schedule I or II, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life, and

    • (i) to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of one year if

      • (A) the person committed the offence for the benefit of, at the direction of or in association with a criminal organization, as defined in subsection 467.1(1) of the Criminal Code,

      • (B) the person used or threatened to use violence in committing the offence,

      • © the person carried, used or threatened to use a weapon in committing the offence, or

      • (D) the person was convicted of a designated substance offence, or had served a term of imprisonment for a designated substance offence, within the previous 10 years, or

    • (ii) to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of two years if

      • (A) the person committed the offence in or near a school, on or near school grounds or in or near any other public place usually frequented by persons under the age of 18 years,

      • (B) the person committed the offence in a prison, as defined in section 2 of the Criminal Code, or on its grounds, or

      • © the person used the services of a person under the age of 18 years, or involved such a person, in committing the offence;

•  

[pilldoc]

@pilldoc

Was I close to accurate? Can an overdose of Viagra, in reality, cause a 4 hour Voynov?

 

Close...

 

Clinical studies show that individuals who to took a single dose of 800 mg Viagra report the same adverse events as those who took lower doses of the medication. However, the incidence of Viagra overdose is more common in people taking higher doses of Viagra.

 

Like other erectile dysfunction drugs, Viagra can stay in the blood for up to 24 hours. Therefore, healthcare providers recommend limiting intake of Viagra to one pill per day.

Viagra Overdose Symptoms

Taking too much Viagra can lead to certain physical symptoms that include:

• Chest pain
• Nausea
• Irregular heartbeat
• Feeling light-headed or fainting

Aside from these overdose symptoms, taking Viagra more than the recommended dose increases the risk of serious adverse effects such as low blood pressure, prolonged painful erections that lasts for four hours (priapism), life-threatening cardiovascular event, and even death (although rarely reported). If you develop any of these serious side effects, stop taking Viagra and consult your healthcare provider right away.

Source: Viagra Overdose (Sildenafil) - Drugsdb.com http://www.drugsdb.com/rx/viagra/viagra-overdose/#ixzz3egECH3JQ

[J0e Th0rnton]

Vicodin, according to my wife.

Oxycodone is a weeeeee bit stronger than vicodin(hydrocodone).

 

I say wee bit really meaning significantly because at one point in the show, a cop was hounding House and anyone who provided him with a prescription had their bank account frozen. So eventually, he went batshit and stole some Oxy from a patient.

He ended up ODing. I got curious and looked it up after that episode lol.

[hf101]

Apparently Richards was held at the border 4 hours for the prescription painkillers.  Although the article states that the pain killers are often over prescribed by team doctors to allow players to play through significant and painful injuries, what may be a key factor here is that these pills (maybe- likely) were not prescribed by the team doctors thus why the Kings were able to claim a material breach.

 

 

@friesensunmedia

Sources tell Wpg Sun Mike Richards subject of OxyContin investigation. Held at least 4 hrs at Emerson border crossing in Manitoba, June 17.

 

 

 

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/7/1/8874513/painkillers-and-double-standards-mike-richards-nhl-oxycontin-oxycodone?_ga=1.257929739.1458286014.1369999643

[canoli]

So apparently this is it, he tried to cross the border with x-amount of pain-killers. Obviously the "x" is critical; also whether Richards had / has a prescription for them. In any case Lombardi must be pretty upset with Richards to deliberately cause him this extra grief right now. The "morals clause" won't hold up; the Kings haven't followed the steps lined out in the NHL drug policy.

 

The NHL has a substance abuse policy that was hammered out in negotiations between the league and the NHLPA; teams can't just ignore it because they're pissed off at one of their players. The Kings look really bad here. It'll take Donald Fehr's team about 3 minutes to persuade the arbiters that Richards was wrongfully terminated.

[ruxpin]

So apparently this is it, he tried to cross the border with x-amount of pain-killers. Obviously the "x" is critical; also whether Richards had / has a prescription for them. In any case Lombardi must be pretty upset with Richards to deliberately cause him this extra grief right now. The "morals clause" won't hold up; the Kings haven't followed the steps lined out in the NHL drug policy.

 

The NHL has a substance abuse policy that was hammered out in negotiations between the league and the NHLPA; teams can't just ignore it because they're pissed off at one of their players. The Kings look really bad here. It'll take Donald Fehr's team about 3 minutes to persuade the arbiters that Richards was wrongfully terminated.

 

Yeah, Lombardi is ticked with him.  Not only did he break his word last summer, he apparently scuttled a possible trade on draft night.  

 

Unless his entire trunk was a storeroom for Oxy, there's no way this contract termination holds up.

[pilldoc]

So apparently this is it, he tried to cross the border with x-amount of pain-killers. Obviously the "x" is critical; also whether Richards had / has a prescription for them. In any case Lombardi must be pretty upset with Richards to deliberately cause him this extra grief right now. The "morals clause" won't hold up; the Kings haven't followed the steps lined out in the NHL drug policy.

 

The NHL has a substance abuse policy that was hammered out in negotiations between the league and the NHLPA; teams can't just ignore it because they're pissed off at one of their players. The Kings look really bad here. It'll take Donald Fehr's team about 3 minutes to persuade the arbiters that Richards was wrongfully terminated.

 

So this is what I have been able to find regarding the transfer of narcotics across the border:

 

https://www.iamat.org/blog/what-you-need-to-know-about-travelling-with-medications/

 

What does international law say?

To view the international agreements governing the transportation of medications across borders check the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) website. An independent and quasi-judicial organization, the INCB is responsible for international drug control. Their site contains statements and broad principles relating to travellers intending to travel with narcotics and psychotropics, mainly:

• That travellers should be allowed to carry quantities of such substances for personal use, usually for use of up to one month.
• That travellers have a letter or prescription from their doctor if travelling with a narcotic substance (but not necessarily for pyschotropics).

The INCB also requires countries to submit their own individual regulations which can be viewed here. The problem is that not all of them have submitted entries; many are quite vague, and most deviate in some way even from the two INCB principles described above.

 

http://www.hockeyforums.net/index.php/topic/65413-the-omnibus-mike-richards-saga-thread/page-12#entry250901

How to travel safely with prescription drugs

Laws related to prescription drugs vary around the world. For detailed information, please visit the Prescription medication web page.

Warning

Canadian visitors to the United States should be aware that their personal medication may be subject to U.S. drug importation laws and regulations. In general, personal importation of a 90-day (three-month) supply of medication is allowed, but only if the drug is not available in the United States.

 

 

Hope this helps..... Unless he was carrying several hundred doses or did not have a legit prescription, it appears at least from the appearance that Richards may not have done anything wrong.