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      Tomdog - Posted
      I would like to keep Staal for his character, but I don't know if he can transform his game to a 3rd line center, because that is his future. As players reach the age of Staal and mikko they have 2 choices, accept the decline of their game or learn to become fitness freaks and defend.
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      IllaZilla - Posted
      Yes. Zucker's kicks in next season. A 10 team No-Trade list. If the Wild had the cap space to give him his $6M he was asking for, I bet the wouldn't have gotten that NTC. Spurgeon has a similar one, 10 team No-Trade list. Probably a similar tact, all Playoff teams...   I think Staal would get more than you think. That stiff Martin Hanzal got the Coyotes a first round pick. I bet Staal would get a first rounder, at least a second. GM's going for a Cup right now don't think about the future, because if they trade away the future and end up with a Cup, no one cares. It's when they trade away the future and consistently end up with a first round exit that people start to notice...   And that's what Fenton is going to have to determine. Does he give up a Granlund to get a bunch of picks and/or prospects? Does he really want to do that, or try one more season with this group and hope they can stay healthy? Last season they lost Niederreitter and Coyle for a good chunk of the season and then when those two came back, they lost Suter and Parise in the Playoffs.  This season they lost Dumba and Koivu. I'm not saying they would have gone far had they been healthy, but there aren't many teams that can lose major players and recover from that.
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      Gnarkill - Posted
      Imo, blow it all up..   Keep only Dumba, Kahkonen, Greenway, Kunin and Kaprizov safe. I'd like to keep Ek and Spurgeon too but if the right offer comes along for either of them I would have to consider it.   Get what you can in prospects and pics back for anyone else on the roster.. don't bother with mediocre or change of scenery NHL guys on long contracts... just call up AHL guys to fill holes on the main roster or get some guys on 1-2 year deals for now.   Hope that you can get out of Mikko's contract asap and that Parise and Suter will be unhappy and waive their no trades. If not let them ride it out on a mediocre team for a couple years and see if that changes anything.    Make sure you set yourself up properly for the expansion so that none of your future is sacrificed(like Haula and Tuch were).   Hire a scouting and drafting team that aren't as bad as what we've had in years past and hopefully hit on a few picks.    I'm okay with watching a bad product for a handful of years.. because in reality that's exactly what we've already been doing. Making the first round of the playoffs and getting bounced only to get a later pick is more frustrating than not making them and possibly having a shot at a player that could change the dynamic of the team for years to come. This team needs a huge culture shift and its time for a fire sale.
    • 19
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      EJ0226 - Posted
      Doesn't Zucker have something like that too coming up on his contract? Swear I heard something about that.
      Not shocked by Staals list. Almost forcing the Wild to keep him instead of trading. I like Staal but father time catches everybody. I don't think trading him is really going to net much. Age, contract length left and a major decline in production. Maybe a team that has some hurt players otherwise in good shape to try make a serious run for the cup then maybe a ok player or pick in return. Realistically the Wild really don't have much in trade bait. At least nothing to net them a nice return without the Wild losing a significant piece.
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      ruxpin - Posted
      I agree to agree provided that by agreeing to agree we are agreeable to agreeably agreeing.  Agreed? 
    • 41
      Minnesota Wild
      TropicalFruitGirl26 - Posted
      Good stuff @EJ0226   Lots of solid points on players.   I agree Minnesota is in no man's land with regards as to which direction to go for the reasons you mentioned.
      And while I still would like to see the team go for the post season, I also realize that with this core as constructed, just making the playoffs will continue to be the norm.

      That said, if the Wild are going to rebuild, I really would like to see them go all in to do so.
      No half arsed attempts...no tweaking this or that. Just seriously move out players of value, pay some overtime to scouts and development coaches, and when you get back picks and prospects, really make those scouts and coaches earn their keep by figuring out who they can turn into viable NHL'ers, and who they can snag from the draft....even at rounds 3, 4 or later.

      Other teams have proven, it CAN be done (to find good NHL talent in later rounds), IF the coaches and scouts have their wits about them.   As for the "Immovable" contracts, well, if the Wild trade away enough players and truly commit to a rebuild, then those 'high priced' players WILL waive their NMC's to go to a contender, unless they actually have the stomach for a rebuild.

      Again...would LOVE to see Minnesota try and continue to push for the post season, but at some point, reality has to sink in.
      And honestly, part of ANY real rebuild will have to include a new core behind the bench as well.

      Yep. Nothing particular against BB, but he is a coach near the tail end of his career, HE is chasing a championship, and I don't see how he would have the patience, or the longevity still as a head coach, to head up a rebuild.

      I'd like to start with a younger head coach, maybe a fresh face, let him stumble and bumble through with the newer players coming in...and if there is a vet or two that would like to stick around, then great.   I think this team peaked a few seasons ago, and it was unfortunate that they kept running into multi-time Champion Chicago almost every time.   But yea...either continue to go for the playoffs or do a rebuild.....no in-between please. It will only make the pain last longer.

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